[Spook]

I don't think tren/cyp with insulin will help you lose bodyfat very well. If done right and with the right diet, yes, but, the only experience I ever had with slin and juice was to gain weight rather than lose bf. The main way that I think most people will do it is by using slin on workout days only.

I would prepare a high carb drink like ABB Carbo Force mixed with Scitech's Trans-X mixed in or just a good creatine mixed in it. I would have a second carb drink on hand or have access to it just in case also. 8 IU's 15 minutes before the workout and sip on my carb drink. Post workout, I'd go to the closest steakhouse I could find and eat a hickory grilled filet mignon with fresh cut steak fries soaked in malt vinegar and salt.

*** It is easier to ponder the universe and its nuclear furnaces dancing their violent ballets across the heavens to the chaotic requiems played by quantum physics than it is to fathom the inner universe and complexities of the human body, mind, and spirit. *** Spook