winny and deca is a very poor cycle imo-the deca will shut you down hard as will the winny,winny kills my joints also.
deca is used for mass building andwinny is used for cutting/hardening so useing the 2 togeter is not the best idea.
deca for 8 weks is a waste imo as i think 10-14 weeks at 400mgs+ every eek is needed for deca.
a simple test cycle would be far far better than deca/winny=deca dick and sore joints.
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