S.A.S Labs

[NamedForTheMoon]

Not sure if these are real, or if I got taken (probably the latter is true).

Here's what the label reads:

S.A.S Labs, HPLC Tested, 4-Andro-Diol, 120 capsules, Dietary Supplement. Amount per 1 capsule 4-Androstenediol 200 mg. Other ingredients, White Rice, Magnesium Stearate, Gelatin, Water.

There's more than that, but it's about how to take it and stuff. 1-3 capsules a day, or 2 capsules 30 minutes before working out.

S.A.S Labs are out of Omojoshi, Fukuoka, Japan.



I got these from www.internationalsupplements.com out of Florida. The picture they show on their website is different from the above, it looks like this:

What do you guys think?

[Gator_Mclusky]

You got yourself Pro-hormones. All the sides of real gear and little gains.

Bummer.

[NamedForTheMoon]

Um... What exactly does that mean? I know what Pro-hormones are, but what do you mean, sides of real gear and little gains?

[Gator_Mclusky]

Originally Posted by NamedForTheMoon

Um... What exactly does that mean? I know what Pro-hormones are, but what do you mean, sides of real gear and little gains?

You'll be susceptable to liver toxicity, Gyno, suppression of your natural hormone axis(it will shut down your natural Test) and any other sides associated with real gear.

[NamedForTheMoon]

Oh, that's what you mean. I kind of figured I had things like that to look forward to.

But what I was originally asking is, do you think it's REAL 4-androstenediol, or did I get screwed for some rice flour and gelatin?

[Gator_Mclusky]

Im not a pro hormone expert. These days companies change one letter in the label and then they can call it anything they want.
More replies welcome to those more informed on Pro hormones.
One question. Theyre both not legal, why not do the real thing instead of a pro hormone when pro hormones are worse for ya? Im not encouraging you to use either, just trying to give some info to try to help.

[NamedForTheMoon]

Theyre both not legal, why not do the real thing instead of a pro hormone when pro hormones are worse for ya?

Hmm, probably because when I googled steroids in the beginning, Androgenic steroids were the ones that came up most and seemed to be the most popular, so that's what I focused on. I'm looking at these particular steroids for more than just muscle-building, though, and those reasons are kind of personal... Oh hell, I'll just say it. Female libido. I've read tons on the internet that women who take these particular steroids are a lot more sexually gratified. I don't care (I do care, but I weighed the pros and cons and I'm ready) about the virilization effects, because I turned out to be hairy as an ape without drugs anyway, it just means I have to wax more. It really comes down to sex. Yes, I want to be fit and sexy, but sex is really first. Does that sound selfish?

I suppose if these don't work, I could try DHEA, I think that is still legal, isn't it?

What is "the real thing"? What's the difference?

[Gator_Mclusky]

Originally Posted by NamedForTheMoon

Hmm, probably because when I googled steroids in the beginning, Androgenic steroids were the ones that came up most and seemed to be the most popular, so that's what I focused on. I'm looking at these particular steroids for more than just muscle-building, though, and those reasons are kind of personal... Oh hell, I'll just say it. Female libido. I've read tons on the internet that women who take these particular steroids are a lot more sexually gratified. I don't care (I do care, but I weighed the pros and cons and I'm ready) about the virilization effects, because I turned out to be hairy as an ape without drugs anyway, it just means I have to wax more. It really comes down to sex. Yes, I want to be fit and sexy, but sex is really first. Does that sound selfish?

I suppose if these don't work, I could try DHEA, I think that is still legal, isn't it?

What is "the real thing"? What's the difference?

If you are a female you need to stay totally clear of Pro hormones!!!!!!! they wreak havok on a woman. More hair, enlargement of the clitoris, deepening of the voice.....its extreme as well.
If a woman uses they need to use something that is in and out of the system fast. Reason being is that if one starts to see virilization then they can stop it. Most women use Primobolin Acetate, or Winstrol because its a more gentle steroid yet gives great reults for women.
I love the libido effects as well.....love it!

What are your stats. Age height weight, bodyfat, yrs or months training?

[NamedForTheMoon]

Stats are...

Age 30
Height 5'2"
Weight is AGHH!! You don't wanna know. No, really. You don't.
Bodyfat, I have no idea.
And just into training.

[Gator_Mclusky]

Originally Posted by NamedForTheMoon

Stats are...

Age 30
Height 5'2"
Weight is AGHH!! You don't wanna know. No, really. You don't.
Bodyfat, I have no idea.
And just into training.

No biggie....we can help. Ive consulted with a Pro friend of mine(female) We'll see....