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Old 06-11-2003, 11:29 AM
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I have a question for you guys regarding the "posing oil" Synthol from Europe. I have been working out now for 5 years and have had very good gains. However, my calves are still poorly underdeveloped due to genetic limitations. I have no desire to compete in pro bodybuilding competitions but nevertheless I want to look good. What is everyones thoughts on using Synthol or products like it to increase the size of lagging body parts?
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:42 AM
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But sevearly overpriced. One of the better SEO's on the market but the cost makes it tough to justify its use. A great alternative is Syntholica, from www.killdevill.com check the banners at the top of the page. I think SEO's really have there place and you'll be suprised the differance they'll make.
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Also, if you do think it is a good idea can some people offer their advice for injections (amount/location etc) - Thanks
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I dont know much about synthol. Isnt it injected? Ive read lots of different articles on how it makes your body parts freakishly huge! And ive been to killdevil and seen the Syntholica its not like a posing oil is it?? you just rub it and your muscles grow and stay that way?? not temporary for like precomp type thing is it?
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start off 1ml each head of what ever muscle your working on for 10 days, 2ml's per head for 10 days then 3ml's for ten days, or until youve reached your desired shape and size. Vary depth and location and make sure you massage the hell out of the muscle(very important).

CALVES - Natural calves, no matter how big the are, have a 'flat' look to the muscle. So you want to keep that look, you don't want to have your calves looking round like someone stuck an air hose in there. So, you inject in multiple shots, on the outside edges of the muscle. That will make the calf go outwards, while keeping the flat, natural look.

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Ok so heres my routine,
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so if i want to put syntholica on my tri's i put 1ml on the head everyday?? or just the days i workout my tri's??
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oh and if im puting on my bi's do i just extend my arm and rub it all over them, or kinda bend my arm and get just get like the peak??
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Originally posted by Grunt:
oh and if im puting on my bi's do i just extend my arm and rub it all over them, or kinda bend my arm and get just get like the peak??
sorry im dumb i just like to know exactly what im doing, when i do it. and what are SEO's?[/quote]

Site Enhancing Oils - a 'how to' guide
The most popular now are Synthol/*********, Syntherol, EsikClean, Nuclear Nutrition Site Oil and Liquid Muscle.

Synthol/********* is the original product. As such, it charges a lot of money and it's the most expensive variant as it relies on it's name to sell it - the cheapest found is $249.95. There must be a lot of fakes out there since the inventor of it, Chris Clark, charges a wholesale price of $150 per bottle (and that's for large quantity), so there's no way that some outfits can retail it for $100. www.synthol-direct.com

Syntherol is my favourite by far. It seems to work better with less pain and quicker (don't take my word for it, ask around) PLUS is the only one that I know of that is made by a real pharmaceutical company, so guaranteed sterile. It's the same formula as Synthol/*********, with added silica, which is a safe way to make the gains more 'permanent'. Plus, it's cheap - $149.95. www.synthetek.com

EsikClean - same formula as Synthol, but it has colagen added. That makes it a very bad choice to use in my opinion. When you use site oils, the biggest problem is the formation of scar tissue. You don't want any scar tissue build up when you use site oils. Scar tissue is colagen buildup due to the trauma caused to the muscle by sticking a needle in there. As such, I would not help the build up of scar tissue in the muscle by injecting colagen. So, that's a bad choice. $100 - www.synthol-direct.com

Nuclear Nutrition Oil - is a very good product, which works quite well. It's exactly as Syntherol, plus the addition of a small amount of prohormones. I am not a big fan of prohormones due to the reason that they will give you more side effects than benefits. Also, because of the prohormones, you cannot import it into countries like Canada or Australia, where prohormones are illegal. Still a good product - $149.95 www.nuclearnutrition.com

Liquid Muscle - same as *********, but at $199.95 per bottle. However, I can't find too much about it and about who makes it, as it seems as a small outfit and as such I have trouble trusting it 100%, especially when I am supposed to inject their stuff into MY body. www.liquidmuscle.com

There's a few other brands, but the above are the most well known. The other brands available, I personally would not trust since they come from very small outfits, so you don't know whether they are sterile or just mixed together in somebody's 'bathtub'.

I personally have used Syntherol, ********* and NN Site Oil. They all seem to work similarly results wise. ********* is MUCH thicker than the other two and it's harder to inject. Syntherol hurts the least once it's in the body - gives the least amount of soreness.

Site oils can be used for two purposes - to increase the size of a muscle or to shape a muscle.

To increase size, lets use the biceps for example. You need to inject in EVERY head of the muscle, while rotating the shots daily within that head. This is the only way to ensure that the added size keeps to your natural look/shape of the muscle. The quickest way to get a muscle up to maximum size is to do the following regimen: 1ml for 10 days in each head of the muscle. 2ml for 10 days. 3ml for 10 days. If you do both, the biceps and triceps simultaneously, you can add up to 3" on your arms in those 30 days. Now, this is VERY IMPORTANT!!!: you HAVE to massage the area that you just injected SEVERELLY! You have to make sure that there's no lump forming. The muscle should always be soft. You should NEVER have a lump. It is also a good idea, to inject just before going to the gym, so as soon as you get to the gym, you should do a couple light weight, high reps sets for that muscle, to get the blood moving. This again will minimise lump formation. You have to keep in mind, that as soon as lumps form because you did not massage, scar tissue will form as well. You want to avoid scar tissue at all costs. Also, to minimise scar tissue build up, use VERY small needles, like 25g or 26g, ½ inch or 1inch long (depending on the injection site) and inject VERY slowly. If you find that you cannot keep with the lump build up, but you are due for another shot, wait until, by massaging, the lump goes away (it should not be more than a couple of days) and then resume from where you left off.

If you have all the size you wish and just want to shape the muscle, as adding a peak on the biceps, then inject the spot, in the peak of the muscle, with 1ml every day or every second day until you obtain the peak that you desire.

What I recommend to people that are just starting out using these oils is to use 1ml per head of muscle per day, or every second day, for a week or so and see how they react to it. That way they can judge how many ml they can use per muscle head and how often.

Where to inject - BICEPS - inner and outer head. You can feel the 'split' in between the two heads of the biceps when you feel with your other hand. Inject on each side of that. If you want to increase the length/thickness of the bicep, inject more in the inner head (closer to your body). If you want to increase the peak, inject more in the outer head.

TRICEPS - You don't need to inject in the outer/horseshoe head, unless it is really lacking behind. You inject in the middle and rear heads of the triceps. Generally, at the back of your arm, the upper portion is the rear head and the lower portion is the middle head, as the two heads overlap each other somewhat.

DELTOIDS - just inject straight into whatever head is lacking in size.

CALVES - Natural calves, no matter how big the are, have a 'flat' look to the muscle. So you want to keep that look, you don't want to have your calves looking round like someone stuck an air hose in there. So, you inject in multiple shots, on the outside edges of the muscle. That will make the calf go outwards, while keeping the flat, natural look.

QUADS - With muscles this large, you need to do multiple daily injections. Where in the biceps you use 1ml per head per day to begin with, on quads you need to start with 1ml per site, 7 sites per quad. That is to avoid the 'lumpy' look and keep the quad uniform. Again, to keep the natural look of the thigh, you should inject in the 'peak' of the outer quad, injecting along the crest. If the teardrop is lacking, then just inject straight into it, rotating sites daily. I personally don't recommend quad shots, especially teardrop, due to the very high amount of nerves in the area.

I strongly recommend that you get some anatomy charts and study the muscles and the nerves that are in the area that you want to inject.

How do Site Oils work? To begin with, they do not stay in the muscle for 3 to 5 years. They get dissipated within months. However, during this time, they have stretched the fascia of that muscle. The fascia is a great constrictive factor in muscle growth. The more stretched the fascia is the more the muscle will grow and the more it will have that 'popping' look. Site oils stay in there long enough for the fascia to stretch. As they dissipate, the 'space' left by them is replaced with new muscle tissue growth. That is the reason why when x-rays where performed on some of the people that have 25"+ arms, there was no oil found in there. The oil dissipated and it was replaced by real muscle. The principle is the same as the one behind site shots with steroids, but it works at a much a larger degree, because the Site Oils take that much longer to dissipate.

Pain - obviously, any site shot hurts. The pain will minimise the more you inject, until it will not hurt any more. Site Oils hurt, but not as much as site injections with, lets say, Sustanon. However, as I said, they will hurt less and less the more you use them. I currently put all my Sustanon in my biceps and I get no pain what so ever because the biceps are used with having stuff injected in them.

Dangers - Site Oils are safe, if certain precautions are taken, same as when injecting anything else. You always have to aspirate. Always! You DO NOT want the oil to go in a vein. Always massage the area after the shot so scar tissue build up doesn't occur. And most importantly - USE COMMON SENSE! If you have 16" arms, don't think that you will have 23" in 5 weeks! Because if you try that, you will end up with deformed looking muscles and you will be the laughing stock of the world, like Greg Valentino. Site Oils are there to help you break past a plateau. If your genetics indicate that you are 242 with 5% bf, but you only have 18" arms, then Site Oils will help you bring your arms in proportion. All that I am saying is that Site Oils are there to aid the work that you do in the gym, not replace it!
Last edited by Big A on 05-24-2002 at 02:10 AM
Part 1
A few main things. Firstly, you don't want any scar tissue buildup at all, so you have to inject VERY slowly and massage the hell out of it as much as possible. Secondly, you have to stretch daily as much as possible to enhance it's stretching ability of the fascia - the more you stretch the better results you'll get and less chance of an injury due to tight muscles. Thirdly, you want to rotate the shots around the muscle as much as possible, including depth, so you keep the muscle looking natural and real. So vary shots between 1/2" and 1".
The two best brands out there are Syntherol and *********. Syntherol is made by a real pharma company, it's oil is clean and it flows easily through anything as small as an insulin needle. Because of that it also hurts less. So you can use 26g to 29g no problem with it.
Results wise ********* is the same, but it's much thicker. You need 21g to 23g to get it through. Because of that I don't like it, as that makes it hurt more and easier scar tissue buildup.
Part 2
To use, do what I outlined in my guide. 1ml per head for 10 days, 2ml per head for 10 days and 3ml per head for 10 days. That includes both shoulders and arms. Also, what I have found, especially in biceps and shoulders, is that I can do each day 3ml x 2 sites per head, for a total of 6ml per head. A guy that I had do that went from 19.5" to 23.5" in the arms in 4 weeks. After those 4 weeks, do 3ml per head once a week for 3 months. Then the size will be permanent, especially if you would have been on gear throughout that whole period.
Let me know if you get stuck with anything.
Big A


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