Does using same drugs reduce effectivness?

[white sox bill]

Hey,
I was going to run Prop. for my next cycle, but that would make 3 straight cycles of using it. Would Enanthate work better? Does using same stack effect the results? Thanjs,
Bill

[mtex]

it doesnt matter - they are both test, just different ester. but the longer you stay on the more your body responds to counter act or keep your body chemistry balanced.

for example your body may produce more shbg to counter high test levels

[white sox bill]

Originally Posted by mtex

it doesnt matter - they are both test, just different ester. but the longer you stay on the more your body responds to counter act or keep your body chemistry balanced.

for example your body may produce more shbg to counter high test levels

mtex,
I'm experminting w/short cycles like they do in Europe. 30 days on, 30 off. Although I may sneek a 5th week in. Do you think the above protocol is enough time in between cycles to start with same test. ester again? If so, I'll keep running Prop. again combine with EQ. I've noticed the orals are SO expensive--like 'var and winstrol

[Deacon]

you wont like those short cycles bro - the gains come very slowly - to answer your question - yes you can use the same thing with out problems

[white sox bill]

Originally Posted by Deacon

you wont like those short cycles bro - the gains come very slowly - to answer your question - yes you can use the same thing with out problems

According to one of ALR's protocols, the idea of short cycle is to get in, hit it heavy for month, get out before the side effects start. But you are saying that the gains come hard due tot he fact that your constanly going on and off? BTW thanks for the answers!

[mtex]

Originally Posted by white sox bill

According to one of ALR's protocols, the idea of short cycle is to get in, hit it heavy for month, get out before the side effects start. But you are saying that the gains come hard due tot he fact that your constanly going on and off? BTW thanks for the answers!

i tried the short cycle plan - 6 on & 4 off. the four off included 2 weeks pct. i did get some good gains, i did 3 cycles back to back but gains were very minimal on last cycle

[Deacon]

there was just a good article I read about the Euro short cycles- they pointed out that the Euro bbr's were not as big as Americans because they did shorter cycle with very low doses and so did not grow as fast or as big - so IMO you wont see the gains you expect - and as far as the argument that running short cycles is safer than running regular 10-12 week cycles - I dont really buy it - But some guys love it so I wish you luck trying it bro

[skeer126]

yea europe sux neway :spankin

[babybull34]

Originally Posted by white sox bill

According to one of ALR's protocols, the idea of short cycle is to get in, hit it heavy for month, get out before the side effects start. But you are saying that the gains come hard due tot he fact that your constanly going on and off? BTW thanks for the answers!

It depends on which compounds you plain on using, with this in mind some short cycles could be of benefit. For instance, Prop is short acting and you'll notice results starting within a week, so it is suited for short or long cycles. EQ, on the other-hand, is a long acting substance, and four to five weeks on is nowhere close to the ample amount of time necessary to reap the effects of this compound. So, you might want to rethink this additive. I do, however have to agree with Mtex and Deacon, in the fact that longer cycles are the better way to go and yield much better results. Best of luck in which ever road you take!

[mtex]

good point BB34. i would do a tren/prop cycle if it were a short one. but i think long cycles are better because it alows your body to acustom itself to the new weight. gives you more time to "harden your gains" so to speak. i do 10-12 weeks . i dont go longer because my body stops responding after 10-12 weeks & my doses get too high