First cycle ??

[vrod]

I am 35, work-out on & off for the past 8 years.
weight 200lb w/ 15% bf

1-10 weeks 4iu ED HGH
1-10 weeks 50mg E2D Winstrol
1-5 weeks 300mg per week Deca
6-10 weeks 200mg week Trebolone

Please advise.

[Avid Learner]

Are you picking these compounds because you're hoping to be able to use this cycle to cut up?

[vrod]

I friend have them available for me and wouldn't mind gain some quality muscle mass and at the same time cut up. I heard the I should not use Deca with Trebolone???

[Gator_Mclusky]

Originally Posted by vrod

I am 35, work-out on & off for the past 8 years.
weight 200lb w/ 15% bf

1-10 weeks 4iu ED HGH
1-10 weeks 50mg E2D Winstrol
1-5 weeks 300mg per week Deca
6-10 weeks 200mg week Trebolone

Please advise.

10 wks of HGH isnt enough for anything unfortuneately.

Most recommend Test only for a first cycle. Im not neccesarily one of them. I have nothing against it but theres more than one way to have a good first cycle.

Most also say dont do Tren on a first cycle. Have you researched it. Its an advanced steroid that has sides most new to juicing dont care for.

5 wks of Deca isnt enough for anything either.

Id say get some Test and run 200-400 mgs ew and the Winstrol @ 50 mgs eod for an 8-10 wk cycle.

My first cycle was Sostenon @ 250 mgs ew and Winstrol-V @ 50 mgs eod for 8 wks and gained 18 solid lbs.

[Avid Learner]

I do think it's preferable to keep your number of compounds to a minimum for your first cycles.... It's nice to know how you respond to everything... and you'll never know if you're doing a ton of different stuff. I would say don't bother with the GH as well.

[vrod]

How about if I just use Deca and Winstrol what kind of results should I expect and dosage should I use??

[Avid Learner]

I think you need a test in there my man. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

[vrod]

Thanks.

[Mr.X]

Originally Posted by vrod

I am 35, work-out on & off for the past 8 years.
weight 200lb w/ 15% bf

1-10 weeks 4iu ED HGH
1-10 weeks 50mg E2D Winstrol
1-5 weeks 300mg per week Deca
6-10 weeks 200mg week Trebolone

Please advise.

way too much gear for your first cycles..

500mgs of test per week + 1 mg arimidex per day

PCT: IGF-1, clomid, nolva,arimidex

[djsf]

Agree strongly with Mr.X. This is not only way too much gear, but it's a terrible combination of gear, for two reasons:

Deca and winstrol are good together, but that's where the goodness ends.
Deca and tren together will kill your libido-squared.
Tren and winstrol together are a serious joint injury waiting to happen.

Somebody must have told you this cycle would make you get huge (deca) but stay lean (tren + winstrol). For very advanced bodybuilders trying to squeeze out that last one percent of bodyfat, yes. But for a first-timer, you can make any cycle a cutting cycle by controlling your diet and cardio. Steroids (any steroid) greatly reduce the chance of muscle breakdown while dieting, so you can build and cut at the same time by managing your workout and diet.

You can do all this with testosterone only, with 1/10th the side effects you would experience on the proposed cycle.

So for your proposed cycle: No way.