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Old 05-30-2007, 04:39 AM
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first and foremost, i am doing this run strictly for cutting--no strength, no size, just freakish veiny cuts. ive always been blessed with size and strength, but cuts is something that ive always tried working very hard for. i diet good and the cuts are coming. I posted similar to this a couple weeks ago just to get some feedback and i was hoping the problems i was having would get better. they have gotten worse and i am absolutely miserable. Ive done plenty of runs before and its been nearly 5 years since i touched anything, and when i used the gear at age 21-22, i never had any sides like this. back then, i felt on top of the world, now i feel like im burning in the depths of hell with satan laughing at me. once again, i am miserable and any help will be greatly appreciated. this is the run i am on:

50 mg Prop EOD
1 CC Winnie EOD
Bcomplex 3 x per week .5 cc
arimidex .25 mg ed
t4 ED .5 tab, at week 5, cut off t4 and start t3 for remainder of run.
hcg 500 iu every wed and sun.
clen 2 tabs ED, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
Jintropin HGH 4 iu ED--been running HGH for about 6 months now...
@ week 4, start tren 50 mg eod
just finished week 4 and i just got my tren ace in so i started that. 50 mg EOD--the tren actually did not hurt at all surprisingly..

these are the problems i am having:

Hot cold flashes, sweating, in bed and while at work...
i cannot sleep, even when im exhausted after a 3 hour muay thai and jiu jitsu workout, which is hell....
Injection soreness, swelling, stomachache, warm forehead, head ache, no motivation, nearly impossible to wake up for work in the AM, sex drive has gone down (which is a surprise, because its always been the opposite in my previous experiences), loss of appetite, i feel like fuckin ass..i am and also feel super weak.



now, please dont ask me why im taking what im taking --i got the sample cutting run from alins site and modified a couple things--all im asking you guys is how do i get rid of these flu like symptoms? does anyone know what am i taking that is making me feel this shitty?
does anyone know what im talking about? can i get some feedback and some information/answers from those who know? can i modify my run so i start feeling energized? i cant take it anymore, im gonna go insane. im exhausted and i cant sleep. i just want to sleep.

if things keep up this way, im fuckin out, and im never doing a run again. i think this is Bullshit and i feel like bullshit. i felt better taking plain HGH before with no gear. help me out guys...thanks!!!!!!
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:33 AM
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take sleeping pills
take more time off
and a few muscle relaxers

you're overtraining most likely...and not sleeping enough
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:32 AM
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Yea I would have to agree with X on this it sounds like a bad case of over training with the help of the T thrown in. I just had some of what you are talking about after a 15 year lay off from gear and the first few weeks were just a mess. you may need to do a few days of sleep meds to kick you back into a normal cycle my favorite is ambien, it just shuts you off no drousy side effects and puts you back on cycle. However if you are sleeping at all kinds of weird hours it won't help much. I would also look at life style to see if there is anything there that could be agrivating the problem.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:49 PM
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I'm actually wondering if your diet is out of whack. The Tren is messing with your sleep but you might be running hypoglycemic as well.
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