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Old 06-21-2007, 09:20 PM
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Hi everyone!

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30 yrs old, training for 13 yrs
5’11’’, 170lbs, approx. 14% BF

I’m a classic hard-gainer and am looking to break through a brutal plateau and add some lean mass (cutting a bit is never a bad thing either). My ideal max weight would only be around 190lbs. I still play a lot of sports and would like to maintain my speed, agility and flexibility. On top of that, I just prefer a more toned or ripped look to a puffy or bulky physique.

This will be my first cycle and am looking to put on some quality lean muscle while avoiding water gain and hopefully acne (I’m susceptible to bacne). It's fairly conservative, but I think it will produce some decent results.

Wk 1-7
Sust 150mg bi-weekly

Wk 3-8
Anavar 20mg 2x daily

Wk 1-8
Arimidex-liquidex .5mg ED

WK 9-12
Nolva 20mg ED

WK 13
Nolva 10mg ED

Now my only issue is that I can't find a source that delivers to Canada or one within the country to aquire some legitimate Anavar. If I can't get some, I'll be restructuring my cycle and replacing the Var with Primo.

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Old 06-21-2007, 09:34 PM
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I like the low doseage you have planned. Sustanon has long and short esters. I really think you would benefit if you extend it out to a 10 week cycle. I've never done Anavar. I'll let someone else comment.
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Thanks, Adam. My only concern are the sides for a longer cycle (obviously).
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:42 PM
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Then go with a shorter ester. Test Prop is the best choice for your "lean" goals; if you dont mind frequent injections.

Honestly you will notice very little until about week 3-4. Except maybe strenght gains. Me personally i like single estered gear. It's better to keep your blood levels more stable.
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If you looked up all the half lifes of the 4 esters you plan on injecting then you will know what i mean
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I certainly considered Test Prop, but the pain of the injections just wasn't something I was interested in - especially for a first cycle.
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Best way to decide; stick with your game plan if you dont like the results then continue to week 10. When you enter foreign Testosterone it's going to shut down your HPTA. Average males produces 75/mg per week. It's really how your body reacts;
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If your diet and training are down I think you stand to get some great gains from your proposed cycle. There is really not much of a need for the AI, but if you want to use it no big deal. I would however run the Nolva at least 20mg for the entire 4 weeks, I wouldn't drop it to 10mg.

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Thanks guys.

I found a source for Anavar, so I'm sticking with that and the Sust.

I may consider going longer with the Sust, as Adam suggested... but we'll see how things go. I really appreciate the advice.

Hopefully I don't break out too badly. ...that's still my big fear.
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