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Question Anavar, TBol, or Primo???

What's up everybody! Good to see you all again. I need some help. I am about to do a cutting sessions, need it bad lol. It's been 2 years since I've cycled anything. Went through back surgery, had to stop working out for over a year, and beyond that had some bad personal luck to say the least. Sighhh.... All that aside, LOL! I'm back and ready to get on with things. So prior to my rant, I was saying, I've just recently been kicking the intensity of workouts back up and am handling it well, so I feel confident now to really hit it hard! I've put on quite a bit of BF since the surgery and obviously experienced quite a bit of LB atrophy:cry ... Oh well, it can be fixed right... The problem I am having is I have noticed I am incredibly sensitive to estrogen and obviously during a cutting cycle it truly is the enemy. Because of this unpleasant detail I am looking at low (if not minimal) androgenic gear. I want slow, solid, retainable gains. My diet is solid, cardio's good, strength training is finally intensifying... but I fear over the last two years of recovering and being a "couch-potato" I have really trained my body to hold on to the adipose. (Is that enough background??? LOL) So, I am looking at Primo, Anavar, or TBol's. Unfortunately my budget is tight and I am looking at only one of these as I can't afford them all:cry . I am either going to run Primo at 500mg/wk for 12 wks, Anavar at 50mg/ED for 12 wks, or TBol's at 75mg's/ED for the first 2 weeks then lower it 50mg's/ED for another eight weeks (10 weeks total). I have never tried TBol's before and am very interested in trying. I have run Anavar and Primo before but never alone, always stacked. So my question (to finally get to the point) which one of these do you feel will be of the most benefit to me? I am just trying to harden up and lean out, not gain mass right now (I've got enough... in all the wrong places:cry ) I have a script for Adipex and will be using this to help shred. So please, any input is appreciated, even the occasional flame LOL. Seriously, thanks...

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I would just diet man.
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I definitely agree with IAJ and AS with the diet. And why not throw in an over the counter fat burner, to help get some of the BF down along with a well rounded diet. You never really gave much on stats so where do stand and the moment?

Age/stats/BF, how many cycles have you done in the past and anything else you can think of. How long have you been back into the workout seen?

It should help burn some fat or at least give you some energy to get a good kick start. Or become a bit more aggressive and get some research Clenbuterol from AG-Guys.com or where ever.

Although I have never used T-Bol or Primo, but I love Var and the compounds you suggested are very good for your situation.

Just would like a bit more info on you to help make a better assessment on your situation.

Thats just my 2 cents.

Throw out a little more info though please.
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I am currently 6ft at 225lbs with 19% bf at 27 years old, been working out for 12years minus this surgery BS, natural for 9 of those... I am interested in at least maintaining LBM if not adding a few lbs. while I shred the BF. I have cycled ten times, but always for mass. I have been slowly increasing workout intensity over the last 6 months and am finally to the point where I know a cycle would be of benefit again. I just want to knock at least 6% BF off in the next two months before my son is born and I tie the knot again. I got a script of Adipex from my doc to help with fat loss. I am just really concerned with lossing ANY LBM right now. Ive lost enough post-op and have worked really hard to regain what I have and I am not about to give up those hard earned natural lbs for the sake of lossing 20 vanity lbs. I just want to loss as much as possible in the next two months, but I don't want to hit up DNP. The adipex should help with the burning, I just want to solidify, maintain, and maybe/hopefully add a few LB lbs in the process. I know anavar is good for this but I have nevet run it by itself... I was also considering a test/tren stack. Any feedback on this or other suggested substances is mad appreciated.

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A Test/Tren stack will definitely keep the lean muscle mass. Keep the Test/Tren within reason or you may get somewhat bloated (I get bloated from Test, but not everyone does the way I do, I am very sensitive to most steroids). Not too sure if you have done Tren, but many people will have different opinions on how much to take. A good 500mg of Test/week and 75-100mg of Tren Ace EOD. Tren Ace has some rough sides for some peeps.

You may wanna consider a Test/Winny cycle, its a personal favorite. I'd say about 500mg of Test and about 50mg/day of Winny would be a really good stack. I also did a Winny (injectable) and Anavar stack that was awesome. I did not gain much weight, but I dropped 20lbs in a month and was hard as a rock, it was great.

The last heavy cycle I did, I used Tren Ace, Winny (injectable) and Anavar at the end of my cycle to help me lean out. It worked pretty good, but my diet was not as good as it should have been.

DIET IS EVERYTHING!!!

I have no personal experience with T-Bol or Primo so I have no advice on those. I only speak about what I have used. Although you can fit Anavar into any cycle, bulking or cutting.

Just my suggestions and hopefully others will throw in their experience to halp ya out with some good ideas on stacks for ya.

Hey CONGRATS on your baby boy and tyin the knot again. Best of luck to you!!! :woot
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