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Old 02-05-2008, 10:52 PM
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Please, explain how I am the dick in this situation. I would love to know.

If you had stated something along the lines of:

"Hello, I train for MMA as a lightweight. I use 500mg of Test-E and 300mg of Deca per week and I am not getting my desired results from these drugs..."

Then the tone of my post would be completely different. The fact however remains, you weigh 160lbs at 5'-10" and you come on this board asking why you are not gaining weight on three cycles of nearly a freaking gram per week of AAS! You sir have no business taking these drugs! You show a complete lack of knowledge towards your training. You need to realize that simply because you drink three protein shakes a day and use a program designed by a genetic freak who could gain weight just by looking at a barbell, doesn't mean you have your shit together. Nobody on earth is at their genetic peak at your size. If you can't put on weight without AAS, then you sure as shit aren't going to put on weight with AAS.

On top of this, you have obviously not bothered to take anytime out of your life to educate yourself on the use of very potent and potentially dangerous drugs. So please tell me why, if you cannot come to this board in a more intelligent manner, should I bother to freely bestow upon you the knowledge that I have taken so much time to acquire over the years.

You sir are the "dick" filling up this board. The "impression" that you should get from my post is that I don't appreciate people who just "stumble" in expect someone to figure out why this or that doesn't work for them. That is your job, and quite frankly that is the whole point of weight training. You want a better answer? ASK A BETTER QUESTION!
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Abs, its quite obvious that your diet is not in order. You can take all the steriods in the world, and if your not eating enough, you won't grow. Just that simple.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:12 PM
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A friend of mine recommended this site as there are experienced guys on here who could offer help but i get a complete dick like you filling up the thread. Not a very good first impression of the site but i'm sure your a minority.
Well i take it you South African? Your first problem is the fact that you are using USN protein. This is bullshit, not to be crude but if you believe that this third grade product is worth taking shows that you have not been doing proper research according to supplementation and nutrition.

Secondly, these guys are seasoned and bodybuilders and from the cycle u just mentioned, irrespective of your diet or choice of supplement u should at least be seeing some some results, the only feasible explanation is the fcat that your gear is bunk.

thirdly the fcat that you dont even know who produces the gear is another problem. steroids, when it comes to their prodution at least, are like most drugs. There are guys looking to make a quick buck by creating an inferior if not harmful product at a minimal cost. You need to know what u taking, do your research and perhaps you would get more helpful posts....
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:19 AM
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Please, explain how I am the dick in this situation. I would love to know.

If you had stated something along the lines of:

"Hello, I train for MMA as a lightweight. I use 500mg of Test-E and 300mg of Deca per week and I am not getting my desired results from these drugs..."

Then the tone of my post would be completely different. The fact however remains, you weigh 160lbs at 5'-10" and you come on this board asking why you are not gaining weight on three cycles of nearly a freaking gram per week of AAS! You sir have no business taking these drugs! You show a complete lack of knowledge towards your training. You need to realize that simply because you drink three protein shakes a day and use a program designed by a genetic freak who could gain weight just by looking at a barbell, doesn't mean you have your shit together. Nobody on earth is at their genetic peak at your size. If you can't put on weight without AAS, then you sure as shit aren't going to put on weight with AAS.

On top of this, you have obviously not bothered to take anytime out of your life to educate yourself on the use of very potent and potentially dangerous drugs. So please tell me why, if you cannot come to this board in a more intelligent manner, should I bother to freely bestow upon you the knowledge that I have taken so much time to acquire over the years.

You sir are the "dick" filling up this board. The "impression" that you should get from my post is that I don't appreciate people who just "stumble" in expect someone to figure out why this or that doesn't work for them. That is your job, and quite frankly that is the whole point of weight training. You want a better answer? ASK A BETTER QUESTION!
Well i'm not going to deny that your an intelligent man, you'd need to be to put all that shit together. Must be an English teacher or something lol.

Please follow the link and take a look at my pic it's not the best but you can see that i do in fact know my shit when it comes to training. I'm a 3rd showdan in combat kickboxing and have been doing it since i was was 11yo, i'm also a part time doorman in my local city. Yes i'm not the biggest but they don't hire me for fuck all mate!

In regard to research, i've done a lot and that that's why i don't understand why i'm not gaining the weight as every one else around me.
I've gone through countless steroid profiles and asked many users there advice. I'm a very vigilent person and not at all as ignorant as your trying to make out. I do my cycles then start on my pct not leaving anything to chance. I take in at least 3000 cal's a day and have plenty of rest.

I feel that i'm doing everything right and just wanted to know if anyone knew somebody in my situation, a simple yes or no would of done. I'm not at all asking for people to solve my problem, i specifically asked for advice and thats all i wanted.

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Old 02-06-2008, 12:24 AM
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may i ask which country are u from?
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:27 AM
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may i ask which country are u from?
I'm from the UK dude
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:34 AM
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holy shit, you are using supplements from Ultimate Sports Nutrition (USN) firstly that company is dodgy. Im from SA and im a buddy of mine practically runs the import and export of supps here, and the USN range is seriously a very inferior product.

Despite all thats been said, i cannot understand y u didnt at least gain some mass after that cycle. Perhaps it is your diet, but im sceptical as such high dosages of highly anabolic/androgenic compunds should at least retained some h20 giving a water pump effect. Id say send the gear for testing if possible, if you unable to then i would stop the cyle as you will be getting all the associated side effects with none of the benefits
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:45 AM
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holy shit, you are using supplements from Ultimate Sports Nutrition (USN) firstly that company is dodgy. Im from SA and im a buddy of mine practically runs the import and export of supps here, and the USN range is seriously a very inferior product.

Despite all thats been said, i cannot understand y u didnt at least gain some mass after that cycle. Perhaps it is your diet, but im sceptical as such high dosages of highly anabolic/androgenic compunds should at least retained some h20 giving a water pump effect. Id say send the gear for testing if possible, if you unable to then i would stop the cyle as you will be getting all the associated side effects with none of the benefits
Well i've only got a bit of the USN left, was thinking about getting some Pro lab N large 2. What i'll have to do is just try a different supplier all together and get the stuff tested like you said. Cheers for the advice
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Abs, its quite obvious that your diet is not in order. You can take all the steriods in the world, and if your not eating enough, you won't grow. Just that simple.
exactly what I was thinking....

one time I saw someones signature on one of these boards and it was like "I can pump a gram of test into a denim shirt and it cant bench one pound" not sure who came up with that, it makes me laugh though

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Well i've only got a bit of the USN left, was thinking about getting some Pro lab N large 2. What i'll have to do is just try a different supplier all together and get the stuff tested like you said. Cheers for the advice
The supplier I would try is your local grocery store, I heard they have this supplement called food.


just kidding man, good luck whatever you try
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:50 AM
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Well i've only got a bit of the USN left, was thinking about getting some Pro lab N large 2. What i'll have to do is just try a different supplier all together and get the stuff tested like you said. Cheers for the advice
no problem bro!!
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