First cycle- Dbol/Tbol stack

[Whatever it Takes]

So how does test cyp @ 400mg/wk for 10wks sound?

I should run Nolva during but what about PCT? Clomid or Nolva?

[paramuscle]

Prop is an EOD injection at best................... and Enanthate is a weekly injection (I do mine twice a week. Prop will make you feel like a pincushion after a little while but I do it ED and I like it.............you just need to be fluent in your injection sites so you don't run out of places to shoot..........



~PM

[Garra]

Originally Posted by Whatever it Takes

So how does test prop @ 400mg/wk sound?

I should run Nolva during but what about PCT? Clomid or Nolva?

prop at 400mg is perfect...

dont use the nolva unless you have signs of gyno developing and instead use it for pct....

the nolva will inhibit gains during the cycle and will only be rquired if gyno starts flaring up...

if you wnat to reduce estrogen levels in ur body to decraese bloat and chances of gyno developing gat some arimidex to use whilst on cycle

both anti-aromotzaers and serms like arimidex and nolva do inhibit gains and should perefrably used only when necessary

[paramuscle]

Agreed, I am not telling you not to use Prop, I think it's a great drug.....it just becomes cumbersome when you have to shoot that many times. Cypionate and Enanthate are almost the same drug so either would be fine and the dosages are good and I would stick with Garra on the rest.



~PM

[Garra]

Originally Posted by paramuscle

Agreed, I am not telling you not to use Prop, I think it's a great drug.....it just becomes cumbersome when you have to shoot that many times. Cypionate and Enanthate are almost the same drug so either would be fine and the dosages are good and I would stick with Garra on the rest.



~PM

oops sorry there bro thought for a moment he said he wants do to 400mg prop, thought he had the gear already..

yes definately take para's advice and stick with cyp or ethanate..unless u like needles lol

[Whatever it Takes]

I changed my mind. I think I will go with 400mg of test E for 10 weeks. Can I still kickstart this cycle with 4 wks of dbol @ 15, 20, and 25mgs?

I am surprised to hear that Nolva should be used instead of Clomid for PCT. I thought that Clomid was better at restoring HPTA function?

[Garra]

Originally Posted by Whatever it Takes

I changed my mind. I think I will go with 400mg of test E for 10 weeks. Can I still kickstart this cycle with 4 wks of dbol @ 15, 20, and 25mgs?

I am surprised to hear that Nolva should be used instead of Clomid for PCT. I thought that Clomid was better at restoring HPTA function?

stick to nolva its much safer on the body...clomid as a pct is usually used on more stroger cycles....

why would you use the d-bol...if its purely for strehgth purposes why not frontload with some anavar....

great strength increases with consistent increases in lbm with minimal water retention

[Whatever it Takes]

why would you use the d-bol...if its purely for strehgth purposes

Strenght is my main goal. I would like to put on weight but I am a much more of a powerlifter than a bodybuilder.

[paramuscle]

Originally Posted by Whatever it Takes

Strenght is my main goal. I would like to put on weight but I am a much more of a powerlifter than a bodybuilder.

That mentality usually changes with time...............





~PM

[Garra]

Originally Posted by Whatever it Takes

Strenght is my main goal. I would like to put on weight but I am a much more of a powerlifter than a bodybuilder.

irrespective...var is the loved by powerlifters for the massive gains in strenth without to much size gain...great if you are competing in competion and weight divisions etc...

still u running the d-bol at a low doasge so the gains in strenth tay you will achieve will perhaps be unsatisfactory..imho