My first cycle - log

[daredevil]

[quote=sicky;478544]I prefer to eat more meals than having drinks so I would suggest adding in another solid meal or two if possible.QUOTE]

I agree completely. Look at how much your tube of protein weighs. 2lbs at most. And you might use that in 3 weeks to a month? In that amount of time your only going to gain 2 lbs at most if shakes are your main source of protein. If you eat 8oz tuna, beef, or chicken, you would be equaling that weight in a day or two if your getting 8oz every meal. I use shakes directly post workout to keep my body from muscle wasting. Most weight gainers though contain a lot more amino acids, bcca than most protein drinks.

[ViennaOak]

Cycle update number 2... Days 4 thru 6

Day 4 - It's Day 4 and I've been noticing some slight intestinal discomfort. Probably is the creatine as this happens during my first few doses when I begin to take it. I take 5mg Creatine Monohyrate in country time lemonade mix post workout. Back day...

Pullups - 11, 6, 5, 4 negatives
1 arm DB row - 60*9, 65*8, 70*6, 70*6
it's totally on! I am getting a super low back pump just from stabilizing during rows
iso 1 arm pulldown - 65*8, 75*6
BB row - 95*12, 100*10, 110*8, 115*8
deadlift - 145*12, 195*8, 200*6, 200*6, 205*4 ...super low back pump and my forearms look and feel like they are going to EXPLODE



Day 5 - Surprisingly I am not very sore from my kick ass back workout yesterday. Today is my rest day so I am going to take all 20mg at once in the mng 1 hr after breakfast. My stomach is still all f'ed up but I am able to eat my fill. Here's what I had for breakfast so you guys have an idea of what I am eating... 3 whole eggs, 2 pieces of wheat toast with peanut butter and honey, 1 banana, coffee... 2-3 hrs later I have 2 scoops designer whey in 12oz whole milk... lunch is turkey swiss lettuce tomato mayo on wheat with a bag of chips... 2.5 hrs later 2 PB balance bars... if I workout I have creatine in country time lemonade followed by 2 scoops designer whey in 12oz whole milk... dinner is 1/2 roasted chicken, 1 potato, dark greens with olive oil and 2cupcakes or cookies for dessert... before bed I will have 2 servings cottage cheese with fruit or another balance bar. Taking all of it at once I definitely notice a difference from splitting my doses. I feel the well-being that is a trademark of DBol but not to the extent I thought I would. I feel like I took a Vicodin or something along those lines... a little warm and tingled. I also feel a slight bit of disorientation as I ride the train. I've heard of this happening as a result of the estrogen.



Day 6 - My stomach is better and I am ready to go. Splitting the dose as it is workout day... SHOULDERS BOOM!

seated BB military press - 85*12, 115*8, 125*6, 125*5, 130*4, 85*12
this is the first notice where I can tell a MAJOR strength difference - just last week I was getting stuck on 120*4... as you can see I am blasting 125 for 6 EZ
OH DB flyes - 12.5*12, 12.5*12
side delt DB raise - 17.5*12, 17.5*10, 17.5*10, 17.5*8
shrugs (step in bar) - bar + 70*12, 80*8, 80*8, 90*6, 90*6, 70*15
rear delt DB - 17.5*15, 17.5*12, 17.5*12, 17.5*12
ab rope pull - 85*12, 85*12, 90*10, 90*8

weigh in 179 +5lbs from start! not bad for 6 day days starting from a heavy base


So far all I have noticed is some labored breathing. If feels tough to get oxygen and I feel taxed aerobically... this may be due to the fact that before I went on cycle I had gained (regained) 19 lbs since the beginning of the year... add 5 more to that and the cardiovascular system needs to catch up!

-VO

[ViennaOak]

Cycle update number 3... Days 7-9

I have one issue, so pls those with experience read to the bottom and help me out!

Day 7... It's arm day again, so I get to see how my strength is progressing this being my 2nd arm workout since on-cycle. I am definitely happy with what I see, especially with OH DB extensions for triceps. The weight FEELS like kiddie weight. Interesting note that the strength increase isn't always consistent in explosiveness across exercises.

BB curl - 45*12, 85*10, 90*8, 95*5, 100*3 + 10 sec 1/4 hold, 45*13
hammer curl - 35*8, 35*8, 40*6, 40*6, 22.5*12
concentration curl - 22.5*12, 22.5*10
reverze EZ bar curl - 45*13, 45*11
pressdown - 75*15, 145*10, 150*8, 150*8, 155*6, 80*12
OH DB ext - 45*12, 60*9, 60*8, 65*6, 65*7 ... the strength change in this exercise is absolute insane... I went from 65*4 to 65*7 on my last set... week to week
kickback - 17.5*13, 17.5*13
dips - 20, 16


Day 8... legs
squat - 135*15, 230*12, 240*10, 250*8, 260*6
single leg ext (diff machine) 45*10, 10, 8, 8 ... no rest btw sets alternating legs
hack squat (HUGE increase) - seld+130*15!, 140*12, 150*10, 150*10
hammy curl(right hammy kinda twinged.. went lighter) - 55*12, 12, 10, 10 ... 20sec rest btween sets... my hammys were absolutley KILLING me the next day
45 degree calf - 90*12, 90*12, 100*10, 100*10
good mornings - 95*12, 95*12
seated calf 65*12, 65*10, 70*10, 75*8

my knee felt much better after warming up with 3 minutes oin the bike and creatine back in the mix


Day 9... CHEST
my chest workout has been feeling kinda stale so i switched it up a bit... I don't typically have a spotter, so I took bench out and replaced it with the iso chest press which I feel MUCH better

incline DB press - 50*12, 75*10, 75*8, 75*6, 80*5
incline flyes - 32.5*10, 32.5*9 + 17.5*10
iso chest 1 arm - 45*12, 47.5*10, 50*8, 50*8
cable hi flyes - 30*12, 30*12, 35*10, 35*10
pushup 24
ab rope pull - 90*12, 12, 10, 10


weigh-in 181! +7lbs in 9 days


so far I am really impressed with the weight gain and the strength increase... I am not any leaner or much harder but I didn't expect that either... I just expected size and strength and that is exactly what I am getting

My labored breathing that I mentioned b4 is gone although I still get a little nauseated and disoriented every once in a while. I also noticed that my nipples "tingle" a little and they are erect and a little hard sometimes! Not sure if it is in my head or if they are just sensitive bc I have been poking at them... I doubt gyno is creeping up at 20mg per day on day nine though I'd be stupid not to ask, any thoughts on this? Could gyno symptoms be possible already at Day 9 at such a low dose 20mg/day? Thanks!

-VO

[sicky]

Originally Posted by ViennaOak

weigh-in 181! +7lbs in 9 days

Like I said...about a pound per day.

Originally Posted by ViennaOak

My labored breathing that I mentioned b4 is gone although I still get a little nauseated and disoriented every once in a while. I also noticed that my nipples "tingle" a little and they are erect and a little hard sometimes! Not sure if it is in my head or if they are just sensitive bc I have been poking at them... I doubt gyno is creeping up at 20mg per day on day nine though I'd be stupid not to ask, any thoughts on this? Could gyno symptoms be possible already at Day 9 at such a low dose 20mg/day? Thanks!

I know of a few people who get nauseated on d-bol for the first couple weeks. Some take peptobismol to help with it. Gyno can creep up on you...even that early at that low dose. It all depends on how your body responds to it. Remember that d-bol aromatizes easily. You don't have anything to worry about until you experience nipple soreness/lumps, but definately keep an eye on it.

[staxripa]

i tried dbol for about 2 weeks befor i got scared of the sides and quit.

but you asked about pumps, i used to get a wicked calf pump and bicecep pump on that stuff. i havent had those kinda pumps since i stoped using dbol i can tell you that.

[staxripa]

Originally Posted by Sounderb

hi, im new 2 all this, but jus about 2 start a simerlar cycle 2 u 2day, will be interestin 2 c if the results are simerlar or not!!

is this the future of communication?? seems like theres alot of this kinda grammer hacking going on these days for f**k sake.

[ViennaOak]

Originally Posted by sicky

Like I said...about a pound per day.


I know of a few people who get nauseated on d-bol for the first couple weeks. Some take peptobismol to help with it. Gyno can creep up on you...even that early at that low dose. It all depends on how your body responds to it. Remember that d-bol aromatizes easily. You don't have anything to worry about until you experience nipple soreness/lumps, but definately keep an eye on it.

Thx, Sicky. I have 2 packs of Novofen 20mg - 30tabs. I didn't want to start popping Nolva yet(if it wasn't absolutely necessary) because from my research the estrogen promotes better results and more comfortable joints.
Thx again!

-VO

[ViennaOak]

Cycle update number 4... Day 10 thru 12

So after gaining 7 pounds it is on to back day again... will be interesting to see how the chinups go with that extra weight!

Day 10 BACK

chins - 12, 6, 5, 4 negatives
right now I have the sickest LAT PUMP
1 arm DB row - 70*8, 70*8, 75*6, 75*8 ... much stronger this week
iso pulldown - 70*8, 80*6
BB row(this is relatively fresh to my routine so I expect BIG strength gains quick) - 105*12, 115*10, 125*8, 125*8
deadlift - 145*12, 205*8, 210*6, 210*6, 215*4

after deadlifts I thought I was going to spasm and fall on the floor my lower back was so slammed... that's never happened B4

weigh-in 183+9lbs



Day 11 1 20mg dose in the mng... Rest... well needed as I feel like I am falling apart at the seams!



Day 12... so the labored breathing has come back... I was walking to work and talking on the phone with the Mrs. and I could hardly breathe! I almost feel like panicking at times bc I just feel like I can't get enough O2. It passes and then back on the train... SHOULDERS! boom

seated BB press - 85*13, 120*8, 130*6, 130*6, 135*4, 85*13
I had trouble getting 135 for 1 rep less than a month ago... now I am doing it for 4 on my last working set
OH DB flyes - 15*12, 15*10
side delt DB - 17.5*12, 17.5*12, 17.5*11, 17.5*10 + 10*5
MASSIVE shoulder and trap pumps here
shrugs step in bar/plate upright row superset - 75*12, 90*10 + 25plate*12, 90*8 + 35*10, 95*6+35*10, 95*7+35*10
rear delt DB - 17.5*15, 17.5*12, 20*10, 20*10


weigh-in 185 +11lbs in 12 days


as for sides... nipple tingling is gone (was probably in my head), although I have noticed a loss in libido... and it is a bit more difficult to get an erection, labored breathing and occassional slight disorientation... nothing unmanageable... I may add a day of cardio in as I feel like slob (a strong slob... lol) as I have been doing NONE for months

as for the DBol "well-being"...felt it once or 2X, but overall not really feeling it outside of my workouts, but maybe my dose is just too small at 20mg or I am just too slammed from my workouts... I start 30mg in a couple days

-VO

[Otisdic]

any visual increase yet? post pic if yes pls

[ViennaOak]

Originally Posted by Otisdic

any visual increase yet? post pic if yes pls

ha... of course! I am 11 lbs heavier... I took measurements the other day... my thigh was up almost an inch and my arms went from 15.75 to almost 16.5... I will post pics at the end of the cycle before PCT

-VO