Old BodyBuilder (New to Steroids) Needs Advice

[Justice Duck]

Originally Posted by milo0071

Justice Duck, remember I'm 56 and have grey hair (where I have hair). Let me ask you: I'm assuming you're a lot younger than me. What would you do if I walked up to you in the gym and asked: "Do you know where I can find some test?". Would you even admit to me that you did steroids, and if so, why would you want to give me a source or even just help me out?

You've got to see it from my point of view. I'd like nothing better than to find a local source but just going around and asking these young guys is just going to get me a rep that I don't want.

Well people with gear need people with money, Im 31, whenever I have been looking I just put it out there that I am looking and that I take steroids and the source comes shortly enough.
But if you go the AS route then so be it.

[milo0071]

Originally Posted by Justice Duck

Well people with gear need people with money, Im 31, whenever I have been looking I just put it out there that I am looking and that I take steroids and the source comes shortly enough.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I really appreciate the advice from everyone. If I was younger I might give it a try. A-S quotes a 100% success rate (if that's believeable) and if all I'll get is a letter if it's seized, I'll probably go that route. I'm really not looking to get huge - I just want to be able to bench at least 3-4 reps at 245. Right I'm lucky if I can get three at 225.

[Justice Duck]

Originally Posted by daredevil

I can see where you're coming from. Heck I barely told my best friends about it. I am very careful about talking about it regardless. There are cops at my gym, and even if I'm talking to my buddy, you never know if someone's going to walk up behind you.

ITS NOT ILLEGAL IN CANADA, thats where the difference is.

[whytee]

Originally Posted by Justice Duck

ITS NOT ILLEGAL IN CANADA, thats where the difference is.

Yes its legal to use but it is illegal to try to purchase or manufacture for use/sale or to sell.

[milo0071]

Originally Posted by whytee

Yes its legal to use but it is illegal to try to purchase or manufacture for use/sale or to sell.

Makes a lot of sense. You can use it, just don't buy it. Ya think they'll haul me off to jail for purchasing two sachets of Test-E?

[Justice Duck]

Originally Posted by milo0071

Makes a lot of sense. You can use it, just don't buy it. Ya think they'll haul me off to jail for purchasing two sachets of Test-E?

I think you will be ok, but I would could keep looking for a local guy

[whytee]

As justice said you sould be fine canada is pretty lax and the further west you go the laxer they get. If 1 can find local that they trust sure, i went the AS route and can say i was happy with my choice.

[milo0071]

I'm ready to try some Test-E at 1 ml (250 mg/ml) every 10 days for 12 weeks based on the half-life. Like I said, I'm not trying to get huge. I just want to keep my gains and maybe increase my bench a bit (things start going downhill when you hit 50).

Is that a reasonable cycle for my goals? Will I need anything else?

[hazcat]

That's about a testosterone replacement amount and you shouldn't need anything except when you stop. Estrogen will swamp you for around a month once you stop. You'll need to run post cycle therapy with 4 weeks of nolvadex for bare minimum. It would be better to have some aromasin to run as well right at the tail end of your cycle like the last week and up into the first part of pct. A few doses of hcg would be even nicer to have on hand.

I won't go into dostinex, cialis, pt141 or MII and the many other things that seem to assist during the post cycle timeframe.

[milo0071]

Thanks for the advice. What happens to me if I don't do the estrogen cycle? Is there somewhere where I can read more up on it?