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[rosco_p_t1223]

Damn, I am a retarted airhead at times, didn't even think to add in any thought about the HCG. Oh well as always on here one of the big dogs will always be there with the knowledge.

[jeffefrijoles]

Originally Posted by hazcat

Mid thirties...5'7" 175. He's probably ready for a cycle. Looking at the workout and what he normally eats in a day would be nice. For that height 175 is pretty good. What is your body fat percentage? That's a question that needs to be asked. I think we can put something together very easily with what you have available. What's you bodyfat%?

I agree that he's probably ready for a cycle, however, if he has the HGH, would be best suited to start that a few months before hand and then run it in conjunction. HGH takes much longer to exert it's effects. As far as a cycle with what he has, I'd probably do something like this:
1-12 Test Cyp 500 mg/wk
1-4 Dbol 40-50 mg/day
7-12 Winny 50 mg/day
Test Prop @ 100 mg/eod from last Test Cyp shot for two weeks and then start PCT 3 days after last pinning:
HCG 12-14 500 mcg/day to get the boys going - can even use it during the cycle, perhaps 250 mcg once or twice weekly as maintanance.
Nolva @ 20 mg/day for 4-6 weeks.
He'll want to do more research on HCG though, as it can cause a rebound effect with estrogen, and nolva is a must.

[jeffefrijoles]

He would be well suited as well to aqcuire an AI, like Arimidex to keep on hand, and some Letro, if he may be gyno prone. Most wont know until they do their first cycle though, more reason to have it on hand before you start.

[rosco_p_t1223]

Jeff, would the Winstrol be needed for the end of that cycle? that's a pretty basic beginner bulker cycle with just the Dbol, Test C and Prop at the end, how would the Winstrol come into play in benefit at the end of a bulker like that, not arguing man, simply curious is all.

[jeffefrijoles]

Well, he could use it or save it for a cutter. Not necessarily needed per se. Thats just how I would use it, to help harden you up at the end. Depends on his goals and diet. With its shorter half life, it could be run past the Cyp as well, like the prop.

[hazcat]

I'm just waiting for him to answer a question. It shows he's online.

[jeffefrijoles]

Originally Posted by hazcat

I'm just waiting for him to answer a question. It shows he's online.

He probably didn't even subscribe to his own thread!

[daredevil]

Originally Posted by jeffefrijoles

If he has the HGH, would be best suited to start that a few months before hand and then run it in conjunction. Agree.

As far as a cycle with what he has, I'd probably do something like this:
1-12 Test Cyp 500 mg/wk Agree

1-4 Dbol 40-50 mg/day
7-12 Winny 50 mg/day
Both of these aren't needed for a first cycle. He was just saying he has access to them.

Test Prop @ 100 mg/eod from last Test Cyp shot for two weeks and then start PCT 3 days after last pinning:
If he can handle all the pinning first cycle

HCG 12-14 500 mcg/day to get the boys going.
Can even use it during the cycle, perhaps 250 mcg once or twice weekly as maintanance.
Agree. During cycle he can do 250iu e5d for 3 shots total. I wouldn't do every week because of down regulation. I would probably do that once every 4 weeks, for a total of 3 15 day sessions on weeks 4, 8, and of course using the pct protocol for dosages.

Nolva @ 20 mg/day for 4-6 weeks.
He'll want to do more research on HCG though, as it can cause a rebound effect with estrogen, and nolva is a must.

Heck if I had one testicle I would go with aromasin 20mg/day along with nolva for pct because they work synergisticly together to better increase natty test than most other protocols. With that and hcg he should be fine.

[jeffefrijoles]

Originally Posted by daredevil

Heck if I had one testicle I would go with aromasin 20mg/day along with nolva for pct because they work synergisticly together to better increase natty test than most other protocols. With that and hcg he should be fine.

Agreed on the Aromisin. He really couldn't go wrong with as much PCT as possible considering his defficiency in the nether region!! As for all the compounds I put in the cycle, agreed that perhaps he should skip for a first time cycle. I was just putting together best possible with what he had. In fact, I just started my first cycle ever this Monday, and its just a 12 week Test E!! So yes, I am practicing what is preached. My best advice for everyone is to research, research, research and take your time before choosing to cycle AAS. Heck it took me 8 years... Good luck!

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