Need help Puttin Cycle Together!!

[hazcat]

From watching at this board and others I have found several threads where people didn't get decent results with their EQ and all of those people were under 600 mgs a week and short cycles. Anyway, I'm convinced that 600 mg's is one key and 14 weeks or longer is the second key. This coming from someone that believes in ultra low doses.

[Garra]

Originally Posted by hazcat

From watching at this board and others I have found several threads where people didn't get decent results with their EQ and all of those people were under 600 mgs a week and short cycles. Anyway, I'm convinced that 600 mg's is one key and 14 weeks or longer is the second key. This coming from someone that believes in ultra low doses.

well...that pretty much sums it up....

a combination of great expeience and greater knowledge...

[InkedMiami]

Originally Posted by hazcat

Say he runs a 10 weeker with test and deca. What do you guys think about starting up the the cycle with 2 weeks of deca before the test so he runs deca for 10 weeks but runs out of deca on week 8 of the test? I think this would work pretty well and assist with recovery greatly. He can run his winstrol near the end to help out with some the progesterone as well. Then bingo out of test still running winstrol for a couple of weeks then bang right into nolvadex for pct.

IDK about that, wouldn't those two weeks without test give him deca dick, then it would take many weeks on test to bounce back, I wouldn't go that route, thats just me.

[daredevil]

Originally Posted by InkedMiami

IDK about that, wouldn't those two weeks without test give him deca dick, then it would take many weeks on test to bounce back, I wouldn't go that route, thats just me.

People have been known to run deca only cycles with good results depending on what goals you're looking at. The dreaded "deca dick" is actually dependent on how each individual user reacts to it. I've personally known guys to use it without the DD. If he wanted to, he could just get extra test.

The point is that deca, and test have two different half-lives. Test goes out of your system before deca, so either at the beginning or the end, you're going to have a period of time where deca is the only active compound. The reason that we choose it in the beginning is because by time it becomes active, the test catches up with it.

[hazcat]

Originally Posted by InkedMiami

IDK about that, wouldn't those two weeks without test give him deca dick, then it would take many weeks on test to bounce back, I wouldn't go that route, thats just me.

That's a valid question. It takes quite some time for any type of symptoms like that to occur and by then he'll be well on his way with the test which should keep him in business. With him starting the deca early then he'll get the benefit of a 10 week deca cycle and the dreaded deca dick will be minimized since it will run it's course and be eliminated from his system by the end of pct. He will actually be done with the deca 8 weeks before his pct ends. The idea just popped into my head the other day and it may well revolutionize how deca is run....lol..yeah right.

[mrshagz]

So Run test e 10 weeks 400 mg.. EQ 14 600mg.. then 3 weekds after last shot do 4 weeks of Novaldex? Any more PCT required?

[daredevil]

Originally Posted by mrshagz

So Run test e 10 weeks 400 mg.. EQ 14 600mg.. then 3 weekds after last shot do 4 weeks of Novaldex? Any more PCT required?

I would probably start pct 2 weeks after last shot. But question, why wouldn't you be running the test 14 weeks as well?