What happens if?!

[Jamo]

Say you get the injection wrong, and shoot into fat, or some other layer. Does the test or any other fluid get dispersed into the bloodstream still? Or does it get wasted, and not go into your system?

[Prospect]

It will still get there, but just take a longer time.

[iagainsti]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Say you get the injection wrong, and shoot into fat, or some other layer. Does the test or any other fluid get dispersed into the bloodstream still? Or does it get wasted, and not go into your system?

I read in MD magazine about a year long study where a group of men were adminstered test-c subcutanously and measured through out the year against a control group given the same amount but intramuscularly. All blood levels were the same between both groups at all points. If you miss the muscle, the goods should still get there just the same.

[Prospect]

Yeah, IM is quicker so depending on what you take thats why some stuff like melanotan II you inject SubQ -- that way it has a slower release.

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Say you get the injection wrong, and shoot into fat, or some other layer. Does the test or any other fluid get dispersed into the bloodstream still? Or does it get wasted, and not go into your system?

it does but it just takes more time to absorb, ive done exactly the same thing with an injection where the needles been to short and probably not even pearced my muscle, youll be fine.

[access]

Originally Posted by iagainsti

I read in MD magazine about a year long study where a group of men were adminstered test-c subcutanously and measured through out the year against a control group given the same amount but intramuscularly. All blood levels were the same between both groups at all points. If you miss the muscle, the goods should still get there just the same.

I remember that study and have often wondered about the benefits or lack of sub-q Test injections.

My biggest concern is that aromatase is already in your fat layers and injecting test directly into that fat layer thereby exposing it again in a direct fashion to aromatase must surely raise your estrogen levels higher compared to an IM injection. This then would lead I am guessing to an almost necessity to use an AI on cycle and we now how that can affect gains. Your also injecting oil into fat here too. Abscesses would seemingly be a bigger concern as well injecting oil into fat as this would IMO not disperse too well.

[Adam F]

Abscesses would seemingly be a bigger concern as well injecting oil into fat as this would IMO not disperse too well

Bingo, my thoughts exactly.

[Merc.]

Originally Posted by access

I remember that study and have often wondered about the benefits or lack of sub-q Test injections.

My biggest concern is that aromatase is already in your fat layers and injecting test directly into that fat layer thereby exposing it again in a direct fashion to aromatase must surely raise your estrogen levels higher compared to an IM injection. This then would lead I am guessing to an almost necessity to use an AI on cycle and we now how that can affect gains. Your also injecting oil into fat here too. Abscesses would seemingly be a bigger concern as well injecting oil into fat as this would IMO not disperse too well.

TRUTH ^^^^^^^

Merc.

[iagainsti]

Originally Posted by access

I remember that study and have often wondered about the benefits or lack of sub-q Test injections.

My biggest concern is that aromatase is already in your fat layers and injecting test directly into that fat layer thereby exposing it again in a direct fashion to aromatase must surely raise your estrogen levels higher compared to an IM injection. This then would lead I am guessing to an almost necessity to use an AI on cycle and we now how that can affect gains. Your also injecting oil into fat here too. Abscesses would seemingly be a bigger concern as well injecting oil into fat as this would IMO not disperse too well.

I agree with you and honestly never considered your points. Unfortunately the article didnt go into any other details except for blood level recordings.

[Merc.]

Originally Posted by iagainsti

I agree with you and honestly never considered your points. Unfortunately the article didnt go into any other details except for blood level recordings.

Yep fat cells .. the liver .. all have aromatase enzyme .. I am going to be writing an article on this topic soon ...


Merc.