First cycle

[dznutz]

i'm thinking about starting a cycle 16-20 weeks of testosterone enanthate 500mg/wk, and deca at 400mg/wk. what do some of you older guys think about something like this? you guys think i should put a lot of concern in PCT and novladex/proviron at these doses? the only time i ever did anything like this i was breaking down fina with those kits and doing 75mg/eod because i didnt know anyone and didnt want to get ripped off on the internet.

[Floridagrowin]

Well, sounds like this is not really your first cycle but for me, 20 weeks is a bit long. Others might say its fine. You are going to be shut down pretty hard so you might consider HCG for pct and maybe even during cycle.

[dznutz]

so you think maybe 12-16 weeks. i hear you on the hcg. you dont think estrogen will be a big issue? i know how i am and if i start blowing up its going to be hard for me to stop. it's gonna take some willpower. i dont even like to stop taking creatine for that three weeks to clear those receptors.

[Floridagrowin]

I'm gonna lets some of the experience deca users here give you some advice as I have never used it. Hang around, Haz, Para or Access should be along soon as well as some others. I do think 12-16 weeks sounds better though. I know it's hard to stop when your making good gains but all good things come to and end even if it's just for a little while.

[hazcat]

1-4 Dbol
1-16 EQ
1-16 Test E
16-18 anavar or test prop
hcg week 5 250mg's for 4 days
hcg week 10 250mg's for 4 days
hcg week 15 250mg's for 4 days
Arimidex on hand during cycle for estrogen
Aromasin every 3 days weeks 15-18
Nolvadex week 18 for 4 weeks 20mg's every day