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Old 06-29-2008, 12:28 AM
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Default Switching from Test E to cyp

I was wondering if it would be ok to switch from test e to cyp. I am currently takin 500 mg test e and 400 mg of eq. I am goin into week 3 of my cycle and the pain from the test e is ridiculous. sorry to sound like b***h but iam in pain.By the way I just got my Cyp and Proviron today from AS after just 5 days
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:40 AM
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I was wondering if it would be ok to switch from test e to cyp. I am currently takin 500 mg test e and 400 mg of eq. I am goin into week 3 of my cycle and the pain from the test e is ridiculous. sorry to sound like b***h but iam in pain.By the way I just got my Cyp and Proviron today from AS after just 5 days
You need to do some search on cutting your goods with cottonseed oil. Most likely the BA contents. This will reduce swelling and sorness greatly. I use to have 3 days of post soreness. Now its to only 1 day even none at all on some shots.

I went through the same thing.
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Old 06-29-2008, 07:05 PM
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Thumbs up Yep... Cutting is the way to go.

Recent batches of both Test E & C have high benzyl alcohol content... I purchased both, and both have to be cut. The C is a little more forgiving, but both have the ability to take the fun out of it completely. Get some USP grade oil (cottonseed, grapeseed, etc...) from a research supply website. The gear is good though... Switching from E to C or from C to E is seamless, due to the fact that both compounds are both long-esters and nearly identical in composition. Go glutes as well!!! The quads don't like these particular batches. Good luck!

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Qick question Tuna, are you mixing the EQ and enth in the same pin? If not you might try that too as the EQ will help smooth out the enth. If you are and still having problems then either cut it with 10% cotton seed oil. You can switch to the cyp but you might have the same issue.
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Florida, yes I am mixing the EQ and the test. Rolltide I have been shooting in the glutes however tommorow is my next injection and there both still swollen from last week, I was going to attempt quads (first time) but am nervous as hell considering its virgin muscle and what its doing to my ass I cant imagine what it will do to my quads! Well I guess I will order some oil to cut with and do some research on the cutting process, and save the cyp for next cycle.Thanks. Tuna.
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Are you heating before injecting and also injecting very slow. I find that applying a heating pad for about five minutes right after a shot also reduces the pain you get after injecting. I was using some prop and hours later I would get sore around the injection site. When I used heat after injecting I did not get the pain later. Just a few more options while you waiting for some oil.
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if you're mixing the 400mg of eq and 500mg of test in the same barrel, wouldn't that be like almost 4 ccs? i hope you're doing bi-weekly injections if that's the case.
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Florida yes Iam heating the oil. I microwave a bowl of water for about 1.5 min and the set the vials in it to thin the oil. and yes I inject pretty slow Im injecting 2ml in about 1-2 min.
Madruga yes Iam splitting them up in to bi-weekly injections im not that much of a bad ass lol. 2ml is plenty for me at any one time.
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Don't hit the quads... more than likely you will regret it if you do. I would wait until one of your glutes is in better shape if I were you. You should have enough test and eq in your system, so missing one injection won't hurt. Your oil should not take long to come in either... I would probably go .5CCs of oil. You will be injecting 2.5cc at a time, but your glutes can handle up to 3cc I believe. .25CCs of sterile oil was not enough in my experience. Keep us posted and good luck! I was in your shoes 12 weeks ago.
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Well I guess I will order some oil to cut with and do some research on the cutting process, and save the cyp for next cycle.Thanks. Tuna.
I'll tell you how I did it... I ordered one 20ml sterile vial and one .45 whatman filter when I purchased the "filtered USP cottonseed oil"... Filtered oil into 20ml vial. BTW, my oil does not have BA in it, nor has it been sterilized in an autoclave, so I don't think it is really considered to be "sterile". However, filtering it through a .45 whatman and mixing it into a syringe with some gear that already has a high BA content, should take care of the sterile issue. I cut at a 1:1 ratio - 1cc of gear to 1cc of oil... works wonders for me. I have a buddy that cuts at 1cc of gear to .5cc or oil, and he is satisfied with that. In your case, I would add .5cc of oil and shoot the glutes.

I heat my syringe by putting it into a zip lock bag (squeezing out air and sealing) and placing it under a light stream of hot water in the sink, for several minutes. When it's time to inject, I pull out the syringe and lightly touch the barrel against my bottom lip... Don't ask me how I know it's too hot or not, you just know (like testing a baby bottle).

These two tips literally saved my cycle this go-around.

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