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Old 08-16-2008, 03:18 AM
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gonna run a cycle of Test prop, test cypionate, tren, anavar, and HGH

question is, is the time of day you take injections make difference.

was going to run HGH at 4IU's a day for a month, doing 2 ius in morning, and 2 again in late afternoon. what are the schools or thought on this, i know half life is short.

with AAS does time of day make a difference

with AAS gonna run like this

test prop 100mg eod weeks 1-4

test cyp 400mg ew weeks 1-12

tren A 100mg eod weeks 2-8

anavar 30mg ed weeks 1-4 & 8-12

arimidex .5mg ed weeks 1-16

also what have any of you heard about using hcg for weight loss. there is actually a diet consisting of 1000iu daily injections for 4 weeks with a strict low calorie diet, any feedback on that protocol.

any other suggestions of anything i should throw in this. not my first rodeo....
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:19 AM
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sorry didnt add in there after 1st month of hgh i would lower to 2IUS for next 4-5 months
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:25 AM
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I don't know much about you but it looks well thought out. Why are you starting the tren on week 2 instead of week 1?

Also, I wouldn't run the arimidex unless you notice signs of excess estrogen. I understand running it a couple of weeks near the end of your cycle to drop your estrogen levels to make pct easier. Running it at .5 mg throughout the entire cycle is just a little too much from my experiences.

Looks like fun overall. Your steroids don't make much of a difference when you shoot them. Some like first thing in the morning because it fits the natural rhythm and your hgh look fine too. No worries.
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Old 08-16-2008, 08:44 AM
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I don't think the time of day is THAT big of a deal but I do like to keep it in mind. Since we have an odd number of days in a week, I like to shoot Sunday evening and Thursday morning to even it out a bit.........Also, some have suggested that you take any orals 1 - 1.5 hours prior to the gym to maximize the benefit.

I agree with Haz on the rest.........




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Old 08-17-2008, 02:18 AM
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thought process with tren in week 2 was just to give testosterone a small head start
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That makes no sense to me at all.........can you elaborate any further?



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Start the Test and Tren together in first week. No point to starting Tren week 2.

The research on best time to take HGH is rather conflictory. There is some say best in the morning, others at night and then to split as you have suggested. My take on this is because there is slightly different benefits to when you take it. If taken in the morning it appears to have the best results for fat loss. If taken at night it seems to produce better recuperation and muscle mass benefits. So for me I would take 15-20 minutes before bed on an empty stomach. If I was doing in excess of 6iu's then I would split it but at 4 iu's I would take in one dose nightly.

HCG for weight loss is complete BS too by the way.
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I have been off the juice for sometime now, and knowing my body, and all the signs, my testosterone is low at the moment and wanted to give it a spike first, may not make a difference whether i started tren same time or not, but just the way i was going to do it. have been shut down pretty good by tren before.
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I don't see the benefits of running prop for just 4 weeks at 1ml a week and at the start...
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The test prop with a shorter ester means it will be felt sooner and therfore take effect sooner than Cyp. So essentially will be used as kick start to the cycle as an alternative to an oral for example which would be used in the same way. This is also the reason why I would start the Tren at same time.

Big pimipn I would be running some HCG throughout cycle too given your current low test and sides from tren to help with recovery once your cycle is completed.
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