Steroids for weight loss

[hazcat]

Ancillary evidence will show steroids can help with body fat repartitioning and overall fat loss. Many obese people have turned to steroids to lose weight. Although not the best tool for fat loss they can be very effective in helping an obese person to get started down the road to better health.
The unfortunate consequence is that the majority skip the part of making the lifestyle changes that will maintain this weight loss. They may very well eat good while on cycle but after the cycle ends they gradually return to past bad habits and begin losing the progress they make on cycle and eventually return to a greater weight in excess of what they weighed when they began their steroid cycle. They will normally stop their exercise as well leading down the road to obesity. In their mind they need to run another cycle to get them to lose body fat again. The real story is they need to return to healthy eating and exercise.

As years come and go the senior members of the board see this time and time again. In an attempt to correct this self destructive behavior we have learned to ask for a commitment from these members that carry high body fat. We ask they drop their bodyfat below a certain percentage. This shows them that they don't need steroids to lose body fat. That healthy eating and exercise are the keys to dropping weight. When they reach a predetermined goal we assist them with a reward.... their first cycle of anabolic androgenic steroids. These members are very successful with continued success in continued efforts in sculpting their body. They have learned to live a lifestyle that maintains the goals they came searching for in the first place. They know the key to maintaining the body they worked so hard to achieve and are happy they weren't selfishly handed a " cutting cycle of steroids" the first day they arrived. Steroids aren't a magic pill and can actually be just the opposite. Let's take the time to do it right.

[Morskaya_Pekhota]

Hear hear.

[roofboss]

Nice Haz. I agree.

[Nickster]

Very nice argument hazcat. Im totally onboard with the idea that people with obesity should first get their dieting and workout routines in gear before actually using gear. But the thing I disagree with is the fact that steriods are the utmost far out tool for somebody to use if they are unbearably heavy. This could be a perfect tool for combating obesity... DHT's could prove to be very useful... and something like clen could be infantesimille more useful... As usual with steroid users the actual usage of steroids when you are in the gym is very hush hush.. for a very good reason of course, steroids are a CHOICE and can prove to be detrimental to health. But; anyways, to make this short I personally beleive from a discussive standpoint that steroids could be the answer.. lets face it obese people will not live long or happily if they keep the way they are.. but again I totally agree on advocating the point of dieting and training

[Nickster]

sorry hazcat i just read the higher bf for cycling and found out about higher estro-sides... could this be combatted with more or a bigger dose of ancilleries?

[sicky]

In continuance (with reiteration ) of the great post Hazcat has started, one of the mechanisms behind AAS actually causing weight loss is by building muscle mass. This in turn raises the person's basal metabolic rate and helps them burn off fat easier. I agree with the lifestyle change being a must. For people just looking for the easy way out, it doesn't work. There isn't one. If there was an easy way out, don't you think everyone would be doing it? They would sell that magic pill everyone and the maker would be a billionaire. Not just that, but our nation wouldn't be battling obesity like it is today either.

You may wonder, what is the difference for the person before and after steroid use if the lifestyle hasn't changed? Haz answered this saying the person will be the same size or bigger (still fat since they will gain it all back after the cycle). What he didn't mention is that now those people may have less hair on the head (if prone to MPB) or maybe even have gyno/worse gyno (excess aromatase enzyme is normally found in people with excess adipose tissue) after running the cycle. In essence, they went from fat to being fat (or fatter) and bald (if prone to MPB) .

The same can be said with using Clen/T3 or Ephedrine/Caffeine for weight loss as well except for the gyno/hair-loss side effects. The point is, principles of nutrition must be learned and you must be in this for the long haul. This isn't a sprint, it's a marathon.

[hazcat]

Originally Posted by sicky

This isn't a sprint, it's a marathon.

One of my favorite sayings and how true it is for this thread.

[Idigit]

Not to mention blood pressure issues and obesity. Could be a nightmare for AAS and heart attack. Compounded by water weight and thicker blood due to red blood cell production and increased volume adds more load on the heart. I think one thing people regret to figure on is the increased importance of diet WHILE on cycle. The affinity for AAS to cause the body to store excess salt and bad cholesterol while dumping good cholesterol and potassium. So, even if this was a majic pill for weight loss it would come with increased danger and the necessity to change the diet which is the problem in the first place.

[sicky]

All good points in this thread. Sticky material?

[Smiley]

Hell yes. I think it has all been covered now.