Controlling Prolacting Sides

[milo0071]

I found this to be a very interesting post while doing some research on Prolactin sides. Since on my cycle I'm only doing 300 mg of Deca a week, the last comment I found particularly interesting, especially considering how expensive Dostinex is: "Also, I have found that if one keeps his weekly DECA dosing below 400mg weekly that Proalctin doesn't seem to be a problem."

Comments?

"Most of you do not understand the action of prolactin in the body and its relationship to progesterone (a hormone that stimulates prolactin release). Anadrol, DECA, FINA, and Tren cause elevated prolactin levels. None of these drugs aromatize or affect estrogen levels. They do stimulate progesterone release. Increased progesterone will cause an increase of prolactin. Increased estrogen levels can also stimulate increased prolactin levels. Prolactin stimulates the glandular tissue in the male breast. This is what causes the lactation and other gyno-like symptoms.

When a user uses Testsoterone and an anti-e, he keeps his estrogen levels in check, and suffers no estrogenic or prolactin sides. When a user uses DECA, FINA, TREN or Anadrol, he may increase his prolactin levels. Bromo was a first-generation drug of choice for lowering prolactin levels with BB'ers. The problem with Bromo is proper dosing and the nasty side effects. Then along came Dostinex. It was easier to dose and it had no sides. Both of these drugs directly inhibit prolactin. Stanozolol or Winstrol also inhibits prolactin, but it does it differently. Winstrol blocks progesterone receptors. By doing so, it inhibits prolactin. While Dostinex is the safest way to control Prolactin, it is the most expensive. My next choice would be to use low-dose Winstrol (50mg, Mon, Wed, Fri) with my DECA, FINA/Tren, or Anadrol. You know the problems with Winstrol, but if the cycle is eight weeks or less, you will be OK. Also, I have found that if one keeps his weekly DECA dosing below 400mg weekly that Proalctin doesn't seem to be a problem. The important thing is to keep prolactin and estrogen under control during one's cycles. "

[sicky]

Originally Posted by milo0071

I found this to be a very interesting post while doing some research on Prolactin sides. Since on my cycle I'm only doing 300 mg of Deca a week, the last comment I found particularly interesting, especially considering how expensive Dostinex is: "Also, I have found that if one keeps his weekly DECA dosing below 400mg weekly that Proalctin doesn't seem to be a problem."

Comments?

That is an arguable (opinionated) point. Going back to the old age doctrine used in relation to AAS...everyone is affected differently. I've seen people run 600mg/wk+ of Deca with Dostinex and never have problems. I've seen others run into problems with only 200mg/wk though. Some people use a lot of B6 in the place of Dostinex and it works out for them on low dosages of Deca. For others, this does nothing.

Originally Posted by milo0071

"Most of you do not understand the action of prolactin in the body and its relationship to progesterone (a hormone that stimulates prolactin release). Anadrol, DECA, FINA, and Tren cause elevated prolactin levels. None of these drugs aromatize or affect estrogen levels. They do stimulate progesterone release. Increased progesterone will cause an increase of prolactin. Increased estrogen levels can also stimulate increased prolactin levels. Prolactin stimulates the glandular tissue in the male breast. This is what causes the lactation and other gyno-like symptoms.

When a user uses Testsoterone and an anti-e, he keeps his estrogen levels in check, and suffers no estrogenic or prolactin sides. When a user uses DECA, FINA, TREN or Anadrol, he may increase his prolactin levels. Bromo was a first-generation drug of choice for lowering prolactin levels with BB'ers. The problem with Bromo is proper dosing and the nasty side effects. Then along came Dostinex. It was easier to dose and it had no sides. Both of these drugs directly inhibit prolactin. Stanozolol or Winstrol also inhibits prolactin, but it does it differently. Winstrol blocks progesterone receptors. By doing so, it inhibits prolactin. While Dostinex is the safest way to control Prolactin, it is the most expensive. My next choice would be to use low-dose Winstrol (50mg, Mon, Wed, Fri) with my DECA, FINA/Tren, or Anadrol. You know the problems with Winstrol, but if the cycle is eight weeks or less, you will be OK. Also, I have found that if one keeps his weekly DECA dosing below 400mg weekly that Proalctin doesn't seem to be a problem. The important thing is to keep prolactin and estrogen under control during one's cycles. "

I think Pramipexole is actually considered the "safest" way to deal with prolactin now. The idea of controlling estrogen to control prolactin is a good idea as you could say they sort of feed off each other as mentioned above and 30mg of Winstrol per day is good for helping avoiding prolactin problems.

I made a post about 19-nors almost a year ago: here

[milo0071]

Thanks Sicky, good info. I guess I was being cheap since in my last cycle where I started out with 150 mg Deca per week, I had no issues. Even going to 300 mg towards the end of the cycle resulted in no sides, although it was only for a couple of weeks.

I guess I'll make the investment and not take any chances.

[mars1960]

I agree with sicky here, but we need to to distinguish wether its prolactin thats the issue or wether it's just progestogenic, if you are actually lacting then you will need to take a different approach.
Also anadrol does not cause prolactin or progestegenic sides, it just has the ability to convert to estrogen by a different mechanism.

[sicky]

The problem with prolactin is that it may take a while for side effects to appear, but those sides may be there for a while even after you start taking Dostinex/Bromocriptine/etc to clear it up.