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Old 10-26-2009, 09:50 PM
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hey guys, so i am currently on TRT and it appears as though i will be getting some blood work done periodically to determine the "correct dose" to remain on. well i got some extra cash on hand, and i'm absolutley itching to run a cycle. b/c of the blood tests i'm gonna have to run a short one(which i'm not wild about, but kinda exighted to see what it'll be like as far as gains. so here is what i'm considering. keep in mind i could care less about cutting, i'm going for straight up mass.
week 1-4 dbol 50mg ED
week 1-6 test prop EOD or E3D (adding up to 500mgs a week)
week 1-6 NPP again EOD or E3D (probably 400 mgs a week)
now is this sufficient amounts on the test and NPP? i know with test E or cyp ya need to keep it at 500 or more a week, so i assumed it would be the same on the prop? and the NPP is 400 per week enough? i can do more if not.
basically the only thing i worry about is both injectables only come in 100mg per ML and i know above 3ml per muscle is not a good thing, so it's looking to me like i'm gonna be pinning A LOT. i mean given above info that means i'll be shooting 9 ml's a week. seems like a lot to me. i dunno guys any suggestions? also would it be a waste of cash? i'd just hate to pin alsmost everyday, and not get some big gains from it. i'd like to get 20 quality pounds, but i realize 6 weeks is a short period of time to be on. any suggestions would be VERY VERY welcome.
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prop should be shot ED or EOD...........
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after researching it a bit more i've been thinking about going another route. yeah i dunno bout pinning ED, and the prop is gonna get expensive if i run it for any decent length of time so i been thinking about going with cyp instead. so how would this work out?
week 1-10 test cyp 600mg per week
week 1-8 NPP(need advice here, don't know if it would be ok to run it shorter than the cyp, i wanna go with NPP over deca for sure though, just like the idea of the shorter acting form)
week 8-11 anavar 60-80mg a day OR instead of ending with extra gear i thought about frontloading with prop and leaving the var out? but is there any need to frontload considering that i will be doing NPP? i know there is a lot of people who favor a long cycle, but it's not gonna be possible considering i'm on TRT and will be getting bloodwork, i just don't want my levels to show sky high when they're not. i guess the "smart" thing to do would be to wait till doc gets me at a target dose so i don't have to worry bout squeezing in a cycle, but being the inpatient person i am i'd perfer to runa short one to get back some size that i have lost. any suggestions bout how i should run above cycle? do i need to run NPP the entire time i'm on cyp to reap all the benefits? never taken deca before so what would be a good dose of the NPP?
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I agree that you should wait until you know your final trt dose. That way there is no confussion about what you need to take to keep a steady and normal test level.

I do think running a short cycle is a good idea once all the blood work is out of the way. If you are going strictly for bulk then I wouldn't use anavar in the cycle. If you are going with NPP then winstrol would be better to run with it. Also to keep the volume of oil down just increase your test cyp. Truely though 9cc per week isn't a huge amount but why shoot so much when for your purpose and situation run the cyp would be fine.I would get some dostinex to run with the NPP though just to keep prolactin down.
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