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Old 10-27-2009, 06:09 PM
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hi every body im 5'10 27 yrs old been goin to the gym for bout 3yrs i think i got a good diet was hoping to get some input on how to put this cycle together i got some clen tren75 and winn50 if u guys could help me id apprecciate it thank u
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:53 PM
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is this your first cycle?
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yea its my first cycle
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and you wanna get bigger right? lol ... tren is horrible for first cycle and winny wont give you too many if any gains at all. this what you can do.

test e or c 500mgs/week for 12 weeks and winny since u already have it at 50mgs/eod for the last 6 weeks. you also need to have a PCT and an AI during ur cycle in case of sides.

do you know what those are? i can explain if you dont.
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ok so take some test and winny but dont mess with the tren how bout the clen how do i get that into my cycle and how do i mix in the pct and ai u thinku can help me out on how many pills a day and how many weeks etc. srry bro jst dnt want mess up i know its alot of questions but i would deffently appreciate it
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ok so take some test and winny but dont mess with the tren how bout the clen how do i get that into my cycle and how do i mix in the pct and ai u thinku can help me out on how many pills a day and how many weeks etc. srry bro jst dnt want mess up i know its alot of questions but i would deffently appreciate it
i think u need to slow down and take sum time to do sum research!! search...........pct/AI........u must do ur cycle correctly or u will loose all ur gains......and could possible cause sum harm to urself........so slow down and research for a bit.......u need to learn what u are doing not jus taking what sumone else has spoon fed u....and u have no clue why/how?? u get what im saying....??
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yea ive researched the pct i understand u do it afterwards for 4 weeks so u can keep most of ur gains and also read that ***************** is a pretty good brand ive been researchn for the last couple of days but wanted to get some feed back from first hand...but jst dnt know in wht order to take the stuff and how much hopfully u could help me with sum knowledge thank u appreciate it.
That place you mentioned that I edited out is just prohormones and other supplements that are a waste of money. Some will actually harm you so don't waste your time or money no them. Out of everything they're pimping there is one product that's even worth consderation and you don't need it at this point. Watch out for prohormones...they can be very harmful to your liver and can shut down your natural test so hard it may never come back.

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yea ive researched the pct i understand u do it afterwards for 4 weeks so u can keep most of ur gains and also read that power lab nutrition is a pretty good brand ive been researchn for the last couple of days but wanted to get some feed back from first hand...but jst dnt know in wht order to take the stuff and how much hopfully u could help me with sum knowledge thank u appreciate it
bro.....it sounds like to me u have no clue what a real pct is.......consists of....and why?!...........i know u dont want to hear what i have to say but im trying to help u understand.....
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