need some help here guys

[Floridagrowin]

Looks pretty good to me but I would only do 6 weeks of var. It is mild but 8 weeks of an oral can be harsh. There is no guarantee you will have pain with prop but being the masterone also has a prop ester I would say it won't help.

[Chancy]

Originally Posted by dusty

wow guys thanks for the help. i gotta go grab some arimdex. might have a hard time getting hcg tho gonna have to ask around... i was thinking of throwing some mast in with the prop heard alot of good things about it especially when long cycles are concerned. something like this

1-8 100mg prop eod
1-8 100mg mast eod (would this help the pain from the prop ;-) )
1-8 40mg var ed
1-8 0.5 arimdex eod

pct
1-5 nolva 20/20/10/10/10
1-4 0.5 adex eod

so thats the new plan havent done mast before but it seems like it would be a good synergy. i also have read that it helps keep the estrogen side effects away is there any truth to this?

thanks again guys sure am glad i joined this board no off to read up on hcg

chow

You can scratch the adex from your pct. I would stop taking it as soon as you stop the prop. Also if your running mast, adex at .25mg eod may be plenty unless you are very sensitive. Good luck

[eClenbuterol]

Originally Posted by JsArrow

a cycle this long i think HCG is a must! it will make a lot of difference when keeping those gaains......along with other PCT

Why is HCG a must?

he's talking about this:
1-8 100mg prop eod
1-8 40mg var ed

That's a mild cycle, he can even do a clomid only run and recover.

[mattbass]

Originally Posted by eClenbuterol

Why is HCG a must?

he's talking about this:
1-8 100mg prop eod
1-8 40mg var ed

That's a mild cycle, he can even do a clomid only run and recover.

Thats just the second half! He is already on week seven of the first eight.

[BigEz]

Originally Posted by eClenbuterol

Why is HCG a must?

he's talking about this:
1-8 100mg prop eod
1-8 40mg var ed

That's a mild cycle, he can even do a clomid only run and recover.

It's never too late to kickstart the leydig cells back into test production. It will pay off big when the cycle is over. It doesn't matter what light cycle he's running, his HPTA axis will be shut down. HCG is the only way to keep natural test up and running.