Pentagon surveilance camera film published at last

[hanuri]

Have you seen the film from that camera? If so tell me one thing . Since when did commercial aeroplanes ( jumbo jets) start flying on ground level? `cause that´s the angle the "plane " hits Pentagon! A jumbo. my ass! a missile more likely.... thoughts ?

[Reverend Satan]

Be careful. There is a guy around here who doesn't take kindly to you implying negative things about his government.

Heil Bush!!!!

Seriously, the video is grainy and of course it is hard to make out the object but the evidence has been examined by expert after expert and the conclusion is that it was the hijacked jet. Personally, it looks like it could be a lot of things to me but I just don't think Bush and Co. are competent enough to pull off this type of thing. Bush Admin.'s style is to get caught and then refuse to answer questions about it. Had they sent a missile into the Pentagon and got caught the question and answer would go like this:

Reporter: "Mr. President, the video just released proves that a missile struck the Pentagon. Why were the people of the U.S. lied to and what was this administration's involvement."

Bush: "Well, Mr. Newspaper Writer, it just so happens I haven't watch that video...I don't like serious movies. I been too busy watching that American Idol with my wife Laura..hehehe. Anyway, the terrorists hate us fer our freedom. Praise Jesus. Next question."

I think 9/11 was more about incompetence than a secret plot.

[Reverend Satan]

I do think it very possible that Bush and Co. were aware that a attack was likely and they chose to ignore it because it provided justification for the invasion of Iraq that Bush had been dreaming of.

[hanuri]

Hmmmm . If it was a plane why there was any parts of it outside the building...( not that I was to push you about this ) . Besides the lawn is almost perfect after the hit.. no wonder it´s called Penta lawn in one site......


look closely it´ll take over 1 minute to happen....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75Gga92WO8


See that "head" sticking first. Too small and little for aeroplane´s nose. Nobody can fly a jumbo that low ... it comes directly from side!

[hanuri]

Originally Posted by Reverend Satan

I do think it very possible that Bush and Co. were aware that a attack was likely and they chose to ignore it because it provided justification for the invasion of Iraq that Bush had been dreaming of.

To think of it didn´t 911 come in way too handy? The average citizens were against going to Iraq at thet time. How ´bout if we have planes hitting WTC towers ( and Pentagon) and make sure camera´s are at place to let people see the whole thing live . Not only hit the towers but make sure they crash w people in them.... now who would dare to say against the "fighters of freedom" anything. That would rise a rage against the "enemy" . And that did JUST THAT.
From what I have gathered GWB was just the front , the puppet and the real players being Cheney , Rumsfeld , Wolfowic ( ok I don´t remember his name correct) and few others. Believe me I´ve spent countless hours seen vids ,pics and eye witnesses statements about this . At first I thought too this conspiracy thing is bull but now I´m positive your governement is lying in it´s official 911 comission report . either lies or then completly ignoring some things ( why WTC 7 or was it 6 collapsed wout any reason hours after 1 and 2 were down.... controlled demolition can be seen in a video about the collapse. That is not even mentioned and when asked they said the reason was "unknown").
However once again I´m not intending to turn this on US hatred thing. The average people are innocent and lead to believe and think in certain way. Believe I have nothing but love for people there. It´s the administration that plays games ....

[hanuri]

Take a look at the lawn ...... they could have played golf there the same day!

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jan2...201311a_hr.jpg

[Reverend Satan]

I agree that it is suspicious. I can't understand how a supposed amateur pilot could fly a giant aircraft just a few feet above the ground and make a direct bullseye hit. I also don't understand how debri like the wings and tail didn't not scatter all over the place. However, it seems most experts on this side of the pond believe the way the impact happened is consistent with what they expect when a plane strikes a building. Honestly, in this day and age with this government nothing would surprise me but I'm trying to not judge things I know nothing about.

Hanuri, in your opinion, do most people in your country and in Europe believe that 9/11 was an inside job by our government? Are there a lot of TV shows and books about the subject?

Originally Posted by hanuri

Hmmmm . If it was a plane why there was any parts of it outside the building...( not that I was to push you about this ) . Besides the lawn is almost perfect after the hit.. no wonder it´s called Penta lawn in one site......


look closely it´ll take over 1 minute to happen....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75Gga92WO8


See that "head" sticking first. Too small and little for aeroplane´s nose. Nobody can fly a jumbo that low ... it comes directly from side!

[Reverend Satan]

http://www.sonicdirect.co.uk/Movie1.html

[hanuri]

Originally Posted by Reverend Satan

I agree that it is suspicious. I can't understand how a supposed amateur pilot could fly a giant aircraft just a few feet above the ground and make a direct bullseye hit. I also don't understand how debri like the wings and tail didn't not scatter all over the place. However, it seems most experts on this side of the pond believe the way the impact happened is consistent with what they expect when a plane strikes a building. Honestly, in this day and age with this government nothing would surprise me but I'm trying to not judge things I know nothing about.

Hanuri, in your opinion, do most people in your country and in Europe believe that 9/11 was an inside job by our government? Are there a lot of TV shows and books about the subject?

No it´s not a big issue here . can´t say about Europe but one thing ; this whole thing started in Spain after the 911( this conspiracy theory I mean). There two local editors of a mag started to slow down the vids and look more carefully .... so something is happening in Europe too. First time I heard mentioned about these conspiracy theories here in our press was when this Pentagon video was released.
I remember seeing the second plane hitting the tower at speed of what , some 300-500 mph perhaps just after the collapses. You don´t see nuthing at that speed . You really believe that hit was enough to cause those towers to collapse, no questions asked. But when the speed is slowed you see things in different light....
Just spent an hour or two on a link I once put in a thread and there was common thought some military plane had actually flown over and landed a missile and after that landed one minute later to the near airport . It was thóught the plane could have been indeed smaller fighter ( there was a pic and name for it too but I forgot it . there were number 33 in that fighters name ...) capable of making such difficult manouvers at high speed ( 500 mph) do the thing and land safely .
I think you as a man who don´t take things for granted. what I also like is you use your own brains . If you like i can PM a link for you so you can do your own digging and judge things after careful "truth seeking". I´m not pushing or like , just want to conversate , change opinions.

[Reverend Satan]

PM me the link or link the old thread.

I participate (mostly lurk) on another board where politics has it's own separate forum. There is always an active thread about 9/11 conspiracy theory.