US is turning into a police state

[Mr.X]

...it already became one, but here's some more for you

->the worst is the 1st

Brutally Disarmed:
http://www.givethemback.com/pages/disarmed

Victim's Voices:
http://www.givethemback.com/pages/victims

My Bible and My Gun:
http://www.givethemback.com/pages/bible

You'll Never See Your Guns Again:
http://www.givethemback.com/pages/never

[Mr.X]

A police state exists when federal and state political and police mechanisms:

Shut down media coverage after they steal an election

Serve the central government instead of serving the citizens

Enforce the policies of the central government instead of responding primarily to criminal misdeeds

Spy on and intimidate citizens


All these conditions now exist in the United States!

In a free society, police agencies respond to evidence of planned and actual criminal activity.

Police officers in a free society keep the peace; they do not investigate citizens and activities unless there is some reason to investigate.

In a free society, police do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the central government, only their action.

Citizen dissent is lawful in a free society and police agencies do not investigate citizens' attitudes toward the criminal justice apparatus.

[Mr.X]

p.s. these are facts:

http://www.rense.com/general50/cops.htm
http://www.hermes-press.com/net_tapping_7_2006.htm
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oc...-o13_prn.shtml
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLIT...ads/index.html
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...726233,00.html

[Rat]

Its been moving that direction since I came back in the early 90s.

I"m seriously thinking of moving elsewhere...maybe Nicaragua, since I'm familiar with the country.. nice beachs...

Only problem is Ortegas back there also... be like a reunion....hehehe

[BACKIN]

It goes beyond sickening the power that goes to peoples head allowing them to think they can do anything.

[Rat]

well, our Vice Prez seems to be one of those, from what I"ve been reading...

[simplechaos]

Luckily Arizona still has relatively loose laws regarding firearms(compared to the rest of the nation). I only own a Romanian AK47. I've been thinking about buying a few handguns. My parents own more than enough guns though so maybe I can grab one of theirs.

I'm an idealist so a form of anarchism is my preferred government. But it's not realistic with our present technology. You'd need a technology that far surpasses our own to do all the shitty work in order for it to function properly. So it's really just a pipedream.

Either way, people need to wake up and smell the beans. It won't happen though, they're too busy watching American Idol.

[hanuri]

Originally Posted by Rat

well, our Vice Prez seems to be one of those, from what I"ve been reading...

don´t ever go hunting w him!:doh it´s true He sucks big time....

[Spook]

Originally Posted by simplechaos

Either way, people need to wake up and smell the beans. It won't happen though, they're too busy watching American Idol.

LOL! @ people being too busy watching American Idol.

[Gator_Mclusky]

I see it on a state level. One by one our civil liberties are being stripped. The Legislature meets every two yrs and each time they have so many laws that they are able to propose it gets damn rediculous!!!! Recently: No drinks in a car...even if its passenger.(shit..this is Louisiana!!!!!"The Big Easy!!!) MUST wear a Seatbelt. Must wear a helmet on motorcycles(I was just about to buy one to cruise the back roads....didnt need one) I can take care of myself...I dont need the govt taking care of me!!!! People loved not having to wear a helmet...just cruising around on Sundays enjoying the scenery. Most I know have sold their bikes feeling the grip of the Govt.