Immigration bill advance to the senate and..

[Lacy]

ans yes OAS it is a big slap.Hubby is english.We did things the legal way.He has no rights to any benefits for five years I had to pass as his sponsor.We paid alot of fees and waited a very emotionally painful time for the gov.to proccess us.

[ISkiMB]

just don`t even get me started...lol. refer to the ***-hag thread for my response....and if you want me to rant somemore...I will kindly do so...i`m just not in the mood right now. Many might be paying taxes...but the majority are not. Who`s gonna do their work?...how about the jobless Americans who are citizens. Unemployment is at it`s highest right now. Wanna come to our country?....how about going right to the frontlines of the Iraq war for 2 yrs like our kids and putting your own life on the line for the country you want to live in, piss on and evade paying taxes for. To top it off....how much of that tax free $ do you send back home to your 3rd world nations instead of dumping it back into our economy. You want to come here...then go thru the process of naturalization like you`re supposed to...that being said...I applaud you Lacy for doing it right.

[access]

Originally Posted by ISkiMB

just don`t even get me started...lol. refer to the ***-hag thread for my response....and if you want me to rant somemore...I will kindly do so...i`m just not in the mood right now. Many might be paying taxes...but the majority are not. Who`s gonna do their work?...how about the jobless Americans who are citizens. Unemployment is at it`s highest right now. Wanna come to our country?....how about going right to the frontlines of the Iraq war for 2 yrs like our kids and putting your own life on the line for the country you want to live in, piss on and evade paying taxes for. To top it off....how much of that tax free $ do you send back home to your 3rd world nations instead of dumping it back into our economy. You want to come here...then go thru the process of naturalization like you`re supposed to...that being said...I applaud you Lacy for doing it right.

That's all well and good Iski and very valid points but don't forget that it is American companies for the most part that are employing and paying these illegals. Just being a devil's advocate here..

[Lacy]

yes paying illegals with fake socials and id's .I'm not saying that there arent a bunch of co fully aware of them being illegal but there is a big share that are "legally"employed via fake documents

[Spook]

Illegal immigration is still a crime. It just doesnt' get punished. If I cross the fence a few inches past the buffer zone in El Paso and someone sees me, they will scream bloody murder for me to be charged as a felon for illegally crossing and coming back. You may or may not hate Sean Hannity, but he crossed the fence in El Paso a couple of years ago, but stayed within a 3 foot buffer which is still US territory and people were crying bloody murder for his arrest while still crying bloody murder for injustices if an illegal immigrant was caught here and deported. It is the same logic as people crying out "Save the whales! Kill our babies!" I just find the logic to be idiotic.

[Spook]

What happens when a country becomes a bunch of overly sensitive pussies? the country gets its ass whipped everytime and becomes nothing.

[Mr.X]

actually, where did this notion of USA NEEDING illegal immigrants come from? US low wage workforce relies on illegal cheap labor - BUT, that does not mean there isn't anyone to replace them. On the contrary, there are MILLIONS of people on welfare in the USA that can be put to work on construction projects, farms and government projects (like FDR did during the great depression). Instead of giving them free money, they'd have a job / sense of pride / and help the country. In addition, there are MILLIONS of LEGAL immigrants in the USA that WOULD take the lower paying jobs but cannot - since ILLEGALS are taking all the low wage jobs.

Illegal immigration should be stopped, all illegal immigrants deported and a large fence put up, spend 100,000,000,000 if you have to, with a large security force. Don't let USA become 60% mexican by 2025 , it's a deathwish...

[Reverend Satan]

The myth of inflated prices in the absence of immigrants needs to stop. Labor is not the most important factor in what the consumer pays at the cash register. I'll try to dig up the site but it illustrated how doubling the pay of "produce pickers" would only equate to a few cents increase for you at your local grocery store. Factor in the ass-raping these phucks are giving us through their abuse of our social services and you'll see that illegals are not doing this country any favors. Did I forget that they don't put much of the money they earn back into our economy? Don't get me started on the cultural issues.

Don't be afraid to say you like America as it is and want it to stay that way for your kids. Speaking English, becoming educated and having a sense of morals isn't something we should ashamed of or willing to give up to hostile invading force. How anyone can defend people who come here and willfully rape our country is phucking beyond me.

[Adam F]

Corporate cohorts want Americans to believe that alien lawbreakers are doing menial, degrading labor that is beneath most Americans. This is a lie and shockingly racist. Illegal immigrants don't just work in the fields; they have infiltrated the construction, service, and retail industries. They have stolen jobs that Americans used to do for fair wages and decent benefits.

The media also uses phrases like "immigration is an emotional and complicated issue," and run film footage of Mexicans working in the fields. The public isn't shown film footage of Mexicans working in the skilled jobs that they have stolen from legal citizens. The truth is, these illegal aliens are working for high-paying jobs that have been robbed from Americans.

I have one of the best "blue collar" jobs in town making almost 40k a year. With just over 500 employess, roughly 400 are mexicans. Illegal Aliens? I can bet on it. Point being, "American People" think; Mexicans are working poverty jobs, and is far from the truth. My mill is 34.5% lower paying then the National Average for my Employer. Wonder why?

I really don't care who you are regrading in Nationality/Color. If you came in illegally you should be deported. It's time that the American(s) level the playing field. Im tired of seeing big business trying to incoroporate dissolution of the borders on the North American continent. Seems like everything is based on "greed and wealth," no matter what the agenda may be.

[Adam F]

Just had a horrid moment where I imagined that US, Mexico, and Canada where one Country.