Mark Of The Beast!!!!!!!!

[Adam F]

For all the bible reading; even the ones that don't read the bible; or believe what the bible says.. any idea(s) on who you think the Beast/666 is? Even if you could care less feel free to give your opinion. Just curious what others think that's all.

[Dirty_D]

He is Satan's puppet... At least for some time he will be... Some will see when the time comes... But I will be with our Precious Omnipresent Omnipotent Lord...

Just my two cents...

[Reverend Satan]

My dog

[Rat]

Originally Posted by Adam F

For all the bible reading; even the ones that don't read the bible; or believe what the bible says.. any idea(s) on who you think the Beast/666 is? Even if you could care less feel free to give your opinion. Just curious what others think that's all.

I can see I'm going to have to give you another hebrew lesson... Oy!!

[Dirty_D]

Originally Posted by Rat

I can see I'm going to have to give you another hebrew lesson... Oy!!

You are a highly educated man and I respect that very much so... :woot

[Adam F]

Originally Posted by Rat

I can see I'm going to have to give you another hebrew lesson... Oy!!

No you dont. Im sure if I told you; you would be astonished. Anyways..Where you going to anwser the question?

[Rat]

OH, Adam, your going to make me think now.

First, what do you think it is? Lets here your explanation first, and where it comes from.

[Spook]

Here is one theory, but bear with me a bit and you may need to look through scripture for comparisons.

When Daniel was brought before Nebuchadnezzar, he intrepreted the emperor of Babylon's dream. He told the emperor that his rule was the beginning of the end times. There were things in his dreams that were reminiscent of Babylonian rule, Medo-Persian rule, Alexandrian rule, and finally Roman rule that would lead up to the end times being worse. It has been quite some time since I've studied this, but in a statue in one of the dreams the toes were intermingled with iron and clay both.

Daniel 2:31 "You looked, O king, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32 The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were broken to pieces at the same time and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

36 "This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds of the air. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

39 "After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
"The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and the interpretation is trustworthy."

The iron and clay mixture is thought by some to be the Germanic kingdoms overthrowing old Roman rule and setting up Germanic rule of the Roman empire. The dream of the four beasts (by Daniel) also back up the first dream of the statue as well.

Daniel 7:7 "After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast—terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns.

8 "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully.

9 "As I looked,
"thrones were set in place,
and the Ancient of Days took his seat.
His clothing was as white as snow;
the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
and its wheels were all ablaze.

10 A river of fire was flowing,
coming out from before him.
Thousands upon thousands attended him;
ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.
The court was seated,
and the books were opened.

11 "Then I continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. 12 (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)

13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

Some scholars look back at secular history to compare Papal Roman rule to this little horn that came up amongst the three horns until they were plucked out. There were three Germanic tribal kingdoms that successfully usurped rule over Rome during the time of the papacy, but it was the Franks led by Charlemaigne that uprooted the third ruling germanic emperor and gave all power over the the papacy for full power over the Holy Roman Catholic Empire.

In Revelation 17
The Woman and the Beast
1One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits on many waters. 2With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries."
3Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. 7Then the angel said to me: "Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.

9"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

12"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."

15Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled. 18The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."

The catholic church has committed some of the worst atrocities against mankind and other christian belief systems in history than any other force in the world. Rome has also been called the Septicet City (the Seven Headed City) because it was founded upon seven hills:

Cermalus
Cispius
***utal
Oppius
Palatium
Sucusa
Velia

I think the hills were later named:

Aventinus (Aventine)
Caelius (Caelian)
Capitolium (Capitoline)
Esquiliae (Esquiline)
Palatium (Palatine)
Quirinalis (Quirinal)
Viminalis (Viminal)

A harlot completely drunken upon the blood of martyrs? Hundreds of thousands in France over hundreds of years were slain by Rome's bloody grip because they would not recant their christian beliefs and were so considered heretics or witches. All of Europe had seen similar crises of religious tyranny under a scarlet banner of a papal rule. A preacher and his congregation were ripped out of a barn one night while they were secretly holding a church meeting. The preacher's pregnant wife had her belly slit open, the baby tossed to nearly starved pigs while her slit open belly was stuffed with corn for the rest of the pigs to have their feast as she screamed. The preacher was forced to watch according to one story in the book Martyr's Mirror. The cruel people who did this were competing with other roman catholic churches to see who could find the cruelest deaths for "heretics."

Upon the Pope's mitre, the beautiful hat that he wears which symbolizes cloven tongues of fire and has a golden head band at the base of the cap is inscribed VICTARIVS FILII DEI.

V = 5
I = 1
C = 100
T = *
A = *
R = *
I = 1
V = 5
S = *

F = *
I = 1
L = 50
I = 1
1 = 1

D = 500
E = *
I = 1
______________

666

* Means there are no roman numerals to equate to these letters.

VICTARIVS FILII DEI also translates into latin as "in the place of God" or "Substitute for God." The greek equivalent for the same definition is "anticristos" (transliterated because I can't figure out how to put up the koine greek. These are just some things to think about.

[Dirty_D]

Crap I total read the question wrong. I was thinking the Anti-Christ...

Your question is asking who the Beast/666 is??? Or who the Anti-Christ is??? Or are you asking what the mark of the Beast is??? I am getting confused in this thread here...

[Adam F]

Originally Posted by Dirty_D

He is Satan's puppet... At least for some time he will be... Some will see when the time comes... But I will be with our Precious Omnipresent Omnipotent Lord...

Just my two cents...

I dont believe this; no disrespect. Here is why..

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto Him [the wild beast] to make war with the saints, and TO OVERCOME THEM: and power was given him over ALL KINDREDS, AND TONGUES, AND NATIONS" (Rev 12 Verses 6-7)

Here is a wild beast that not only has power, "…over ALL KINDREDS, and TONGUES, and NATIONS," but also can, "…make war with the SAINTS, and to OVERCOME THEM…" Is it possible for Satan to OVERCOME THE SAINTS? How can this be

Read Below..

"Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because GREATER is He [Jesus] that is in you, than he [Satan] that is in the world" (I John 4:4).

Submit yourselves therefore to God. RESIST the devil, and he WILL FLEE FROM YOU" (James 4:7)?