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Old 04-30-2008, 12:52 AM
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Dunno if you guys watched the headlines tonight, but apparently Rev. Wright just screwed Obama over about as bad as he could.

I think Hillary's people ended up giving a rather large donation to Wright's church. (what odd bedfellows)

A Political hit job at its finest, and as only the master could do.

If Obama comes back after this one I wouldn't be surprised if the cat could walk on water....
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:41 AM
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I'm limited to google news and Y news (not stateside), maybe something on the news I didn't see.

you talking about this right:
Obama praised for rebuking his pastor
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:10 PM
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I'm limited to google news and Y news (not stateside), maybe something on the news I didn't see.

you talking about this right:
Obama praised for rebuking his pastor
In a nutshell yes. Basically there has been a 2 or 3 day ongoing spectacle involving these two. It culminated with Obama's sharp rebuke, and resulting vitriolic condemnation. The damage done has been huge. The media in large part has been trying to keep as much of a lid on this as it reasonably can, but this episode has provided ample material for the Clinton campaign to win the nomination. If by some miracle Obama survives this, the McCain campaign would also have ample opportunity to use this against him.

I liken this to the Swift-boat controversy that so damaged Kerry's campaign. The primary difference though is that the 527s responsible for those ads had to go back to Vietnam for their material, while similar groups would only have to look back at most a few months for live material from this controversy.

The word is out that a Clinton supporter arranged Rev. Wright's press club appearance that brought all this to a head. Hillary is straight ruthless.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:21 PM
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I'm watching Hilliary being interviewed by Bill O'Reilly. Normally, Bill grates against my nerves, but they seem to be getting along pretty well in the interview. He hasn't been giving her a fluff interview, but he hasn't been going after her record really hard either.
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I'm watching Hilliary being interviewed by Bill O'Reilly. Normally, Bill grates against my nerves, but they seem to be getting along pretty well in the interview. He hasn't been giving her a fluff interview, but he hasn't been going after her record really hard either.
he dosn't need to...she does that to herself by speaking at all...
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Obama's ex-pastor is a complete tool. I can't believe some of the shit he said.
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all these games...worth of nothing. no matter who of these will be your next prez, nothing will change. choose old Mccain and he will continue from where B admin left......war on terrorism will remain alive and well. anyway he´s 100% sure to keep it that way.
will it be Ohbama(SADDAM.....I would like to see your prez named that way lol) or Billary there´s some 90 % certainity nothing changes . the thing being good is ole george will be doing at least what he does best......being something else than the prez of US of A.
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all these games...worth of nothing. no matter who of these will be your next prez, nothing will change. choose old Mccain and he will continue from where B admin left......war on terrorism will remain alive and well. anyway he´s 100% sure to keep it that way.
will it be Ohbama(SADDAM.....I would like to see your prez named that way lol) or Billary there´s some 90 % certainity nothing changes . the thing being good is ole george will be doing at least what he does best......being something else than the prez of US of A.
Did you like Bill Clinton?

Because McCain is basically the same as Bill Clinton. Both are pretty much moderate democrats. The idea that somehow McCain is another Bush is overly simplistic. Perhaps its easy for people outside the US to read the labels in the media too superficially since they have no vested interest in the topic, but I assure you McCain is not Bush. Ironically that could cut both ways for McCain; as a compliment, and an insult.
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I like McCain. He's his own man IMO. (At least as much as one can be in Washington)
I hate Obama and Clinton. I never want to see the Clintons in political light again. I pray Chelsea doesnt ever run for anything.
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