I watched McCain on O'Reilly tonight

[Mr.X]

Originally Posted by Ironmako

This is completely strategic IMO. McCain's wife is very very very wealthy, by seeing exactly how wealthy it gives his opponents ammunition to attack him along the old class warfare tactics.

I don't really care in the least about their tax returns, when it comes down to any of them. They are all rich or have the approval of the rich, else we wouldn't even be talking about them.

to be fair, strategic or not, you can't preach being open and transparency and then hide your wifes returns... and anyhow, she's not "very very very" wealthy, her fortune is estimated at around 100mil. Clintons (bill mainly) made close to 100mil since 2000. They released their returns for everyone to see.

I'm not pro any of the people involved in the election stateside (except for Ron Paul), but I can't see how people on a steroid forum can support a guy thats the most anti-steroids out there.

[Ironmako]

Originally Posted by Mr.X

to be fair, strategic or not, you can't preach being open and transparency and then hide your wifes returns... and anyhow, she's not "very very very" wealthy, her fortune is estimated at around 100mil. Clintons (bill mainly) made close to 100mil since 2000. They released their returns for everyone to see.

I'm not pro any of the people involved in the election stateside (except for Ron Paul), but I can't see how people on a steroid forum can support a guy thats the most anti-steroids out there.

McCain is a kept man, he is considered to be one of the wealthiest men in Congress (but that fortune is not really his, he is just in close proximity to it). He married wealthy. Also his wife is not a candidate. The Clintons are a different case, for very obvious reasons.

I don't think McCain is hiding his wife's returns, I flat out think he doesn't have the balls to dictate shit to her, primarily evidenced by the prenuptial agreement he had to sign in order to marry her.

As far as supporting McCain, it has nothing to do with his position on steroids. The 3 candidates are like 3 forms of cancer, McCain is skin cancer, Hillary is lung cancer, and Obama is brain cancer. I would prefer different options all together but if I had to make a choice b/w the 3 I think I would have a better chance of surviving the skin cancer.

Besides I also have a better chance of my taxes not increasing with McCain (probably a slim to none chance...but a sliver of hope is still hope) There other two are guaranteed to raise them.

I think Ron Paul promoted the most classical American ideology, and I agree with a great deal of it. But due to our terminally corrupt system he never stood a chance.

[Ironmako]

Originally Posted by Spook

Ironmako, according to your signature....Prussians are Germans....and poles too. However, by WWI, all of the key players in the war were also Victorians. Franz Ferdinand (grandson of Queen Victoria), Czar Nicolai of Russia (grandson of Queen Victoria), Kaiser Wilhelm II (grandson of Queen Victoria), and Edward (son of Queen Victoria I think). The French? Descendents of Froggy the Great I guess. I do think that the treaty of Versailles was a very direct result of WWII.

In WWI, the germans were very merciless in their fighting, but they were quite civilized in most respects as well. Wilhelm wanted to see Germany as a "nation in the sun" and that is what the swastika was supposed to represent (the sun shining upon Germany). Wilhelm even went to China to fight in the Boxer Rebellion to secure something for his country in the way of trade to bring Germany some semblance of wealth.

Sadly, in both world wars, Serbia played a very ignoble role (either as the starters, instigators, or primary logistics and support) in both wars.

When I hijack a thread, I guess I do so in the grandest form I suppose..

ROFL...good one...

I have a german buddy and we got to discussing a thought about the germans and the very profound affect they've had on religio-political thought for many centuries.

[Ironmako]

Originally Posted by johnanthonyhome

That avatar..... Is that Lenin?

Its the Guy Fawkes mask from the movie "V is for Vendetta"

I thought I'd sent you a reply to your PM on that question, but apparently I didn't send it out. I had meant to answer it sooner.

Like Spook said I am not a big fan of Russia, or its distinguished alumni...

[Mr.X]

Originally Posted by Ironmako

McCain is a kept man, he is considered to be one of the wealthiest men in Congress (but that fortune is not really his, he is just in close proximity to it). He married wealthy. Also his wife is not a candidate. The Clintons are a different case, for very obvious reasons.

I don't think McCain is hiding his wife's returns, I flat out think he doesn't have the balls to dictate shit to her, primarily evidenced by the prenuptial agreement he had to sign in order to marry her.

As far as supporting McCain, it has nothing to do with his position on steroids. The 3 candidates are like 3 forms of cancer, McCain is skin cancer, Hillary is lung cancer, and Obama is brain cancer. I would prefer different options all together but if I had to make a choice b/w the 3 I think I would have a better chance of surviving the skin cancer.

Besides I also have a better chance of my taxes not increasing with McCain (probably a slim to none chance...but a sliver of hope is still hope) There other two are guaranteed to raise them.

I think Ron Paul promoted the most classical American ideology, and I agree with a great deal of it. But due to our terminally corrupt system he never stood a chance.

The position on steroids of the next president is CRUCIAL and does matter; you're on a steroid forum. That should clear things up. McDouche is the worse thing to happen to steroids and steroid users, peroid.

Ron Paul does stand a chance, when you vote, write him into your ballot - bring a pen! stand up for your rights if you truly have balls.

[Gator_Mclusky]

Originally Posted by Mr.X

bro haven't you checked any of those gambling sites? the odds for McCain vs. a Dem is like 1 to 2 against him.

The probability of him being elected is not high, plus he's the WORST president for steroids. He's most anti-steroids of the 3 douchebags.

it's not Reps vs. Dems, it's anti-steroids vs. don't care about roids

He has Arnolds endorsement and Ive never seen him waste his time chasing down the casual AAS user.

I like the guy. He's got my vote, a sticker on my vehicle and gonna have a yard sign soon. Ill prolly volunteer to help out his campaign.

Its not that I cant stand Hitlary and Asama...I mean Obama(which is true) I just like McCain and his "Maverick" Style.

We are at war.....who better than a War hero to lead us now my good friend?

[Mr.X]

Originally Posted by Gator_Mclusky

He has Arnolds endorsement and Ive never seen him waste his time chasing down the casual AAS user.

I like the guy. He's got my vote, a sticker on my vehicle and gonna have a yard sign soon. Ill prolly volunteer to help out his campaign.

Its not that I cant stand Hitlary and Asama...I mean Obama(which is true) I just like McCain and his "Maverick" Style.

We are at war.....who better than a War hero to lead us now my good friend?

Arnold is a sellout and McDouche does go after the casual steroid user via the laws he pushes. McD is so anti-steroids it's not even funny, it'd put him at the top 3 steroid haters in government today.

Doesn't matter much though since he's not going to be president.

[Ironmako]

Originally Posted by Mr.X

The position on steroids of the next president is CRUCIAL and does matter; you're on a steroid forum. That should clear things up. McDouche is the worse thing to happen to steroids and steroid users, peroid.

Ron Paul does stand a chance, when you vote, write him into your ballot - bring a pen! stand up for your rights if you truly have balls.

Socialism is a bit more important to me than steroids. As is the specter of additional taxation.

[Mr.X]

Originally Posted by Ironmako

Socialism is a bit more important to me than steroids. As is the specter of additional taxation.

you got both going on already in the states, and it's not going to get any better mate...

[Ironmako]

Originally Posted by Mr.X

you got both going on already in the states, and it's not going to get any better mate...

I agree with you 150%. I just want to buy as much time as I can.