Supplements... what is the optimum combo for cutting.

[Yo Daddy]

I am curious to know what is the best, non-gear/prohormone, combo for fat-loss. I am driving at aminos, vitamins, thermos, etc. Thanks in advance for the help.

Also, where are some places to order online. I use proteinfactory, but I didn't see any others that offered non-gear supplements.

Since ephedra based fat burners are out, Thermorexin has got to be the best out there, imo. You can still do an e/c/a stack with epehdrine too. One tab of ephedrine, one no doz and and anacin or excedrine does the trick.

I get most of my supplements from www.dpsnutrition.com

[Janus]

Clenbuterol & Ketotifen (might wanna add Taurine 2+G ED and some potassium)

[Genesis]

What is Ketotifen and where can I buy it?

Using Ephedrine in an eca stack is just as effective as using ephedra isn't it?
Only difference is one is synthetic and contains just the one chemical right?

[Mr.X]

the BEST, is T3/Clen and Meridia along w/ low dose ANTI-Es

the ok way is to go w/ an ECA stack

X

[Yo Daddy]

Dumb question... what is the "a" in eca stand for? Is it aspirin? X, could you explain to me please what is going on in an eca stack please. I understand the term "thermogenic" but I'm not sure what is exactly going on. Is this safe short/long term? Am I going to get a permanent nervous tick or something... thanks for patience with the rookie.

[Yo Daddy]

In addition to the last post, I am curious to know if you like the particular stack of Ephedrine (VasaPro - 25 mg), Caffeine (200 mg) [both twice daily] and Yohimbine HCL, including Green Tea Extract, and possibly tyrosine, carnitine and bcaa's would be a "good" or at very least "ok" alternative.

I have read about yohimbine and carnitine/tyrosine, but am not sure about the dosing on these. I saw an article which talked about the potential negative effect of stacking ephedrine with yohimbine, but didn't have any other source to verify/refute the idea. I realize that both ephedrine and yohimbine deal with alpha/beta receptors, but I don't understand how they could negatively effect each other. X, you know anything about this?

About yohimbine, I'm not sure what the major difference is between ingested and topical yohimbine products - like yohimburn. I see the obvious desire to focus on specific areas, thus using topical, but is that all there is? Is topical more effective? Can you do both?

Also, have seen a few posts about leptin, but wasn't sure what was the deal with it. Any good? Similiar to clen?

Will potassium supplements help me as well during a cutting cycle? I was curious, I was reading ORM's post on it and it got me thinking. If so, what would the dosing for something like that be?

About t-3, is guggelsterones the same thing? I have seen in products called "T-3" or something similiar the main active ingredient is guggelsterones. Whats up with this... I've seen products like Lipo-6 and from the media they've been getting (word of mouth), then it must be smokin'. I know it lipo-6 contains gugg and yohimbine hcl, green tea, etc.

I'd love your thoughts on this. Lots of questions... but I'm a newb and I need to learn.

[Mr.X]

Originally Posted by devine09

Dumb question... what is the "a" in eca stand for? Is it aspirin? X, could you explain to me please what is going on in an eca stack please. I understand the term "thermogenic" but I'm not sure what is exactly going on. Is this safe short/long term? Am I going to get a permanent nervous tick or something... thanks for patience with the rookie.

http://www.mmsfitness.com/search.php?searchid=4440

ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin = ECA

X