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Old 07-23-2008, 05:24 AM
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Hi i have been going through some of your threads and spent a long time getting deprested everybody wants to put mass on well i need to take mass off i am 39, 6ft tall and weigh 280lb i have tried a lot of diets but i have losed some weight and then it stops i was 295lb so i have lost 15lb can anybody recommend a diet i have tried not eating after 8pm i have cut my intake by half.

breakfast was a big bowl of cereal with milk
now 3 bananas

lunch chicken and chips with a litre of fruit juice
now a 500g tin of soup (99% fat free)

tea eat out or couple of pies then a pasta meal chocolates and a packet of biscuits with a hot chocolate drink.
now mash potatoes or even just boiled with boiled vegies with lamb or chicken
a hot drink (caro) if anybody knows what that is and 6 biscuits.

So as you can see a have cut a lot out.

Thank you for your time.

Hey my man....

So you looking to lose weight and it seems that you have taken the first step in the rite direction. First of all i must commend u for not being ignorant and coming on this board asking if some winstrol and clenbuterol is going to do the trick for you - i have seen it so many times befor and it irritates the heck out of me and many other users on this board...

So step one is getting your nutrition in order mate....as everyone noted the are loads of things that need to be corrected in your diet...

1. Eat six small meals throughout the day

2. Meals should consist of high proten food (Chicken, tuna, turkey, lean beef) and carbohydrates with a low GI levels.

3. Fruit juices are a no no, disguised as a healthy alternative to sodas etc..juices are packed with processed sugars even if they claim to be 100% pure....Learn to love water, it does not only aid your body perform its natural processes...but the more you drink of the less your body stores resulting in a less bloated appareance...

4. Cut sugar out of your diet by giving the biscuits and hot chocalate a miss.....please dude if you are serious - which i think you are - these like these can be avoided...

5. Pies and any other processed foods, including any forms of fast foods should be avoided at all costs. I dont care if kfc belives that their hawaian twister is health food - any food purchased at a fast food joint which contains mayonaiise or other crappy salad dressing should be avoided...

6. Love your greens - especially brocolli. Eat loads of brocolli as it is a natural anti-estrogen and will actually inhibt you bod to store fat around problem areas like your tummy, face and thighs....

Training

It seems that you have been following a diet without doing training...Thats why u keep reaching a plateau and cant seem to get any further. lets be honesty you are not in peak physical condition but that can be remedied. Get yourslef a gym contract and try to slowly get into a daily routine of working out...All you need is 30 minute walk on a treadmill a day and gradually improve on this and your results will improve significantly..if you dont wanna do the whole gym thing currently...dedicate and hour of your day every day and take a 30 minute walk...as your body adapts to the exercise....increase the walk to a brisk walk.....later u can upgrade the brisk walk to a light jog but you are going to have to do some form of exercise my man...

so hopefully i have helped you out a bit....

i will try and workout a good diet for you, but with my experience in fitness and nutrition i rwalise that one needs to develop a nutrition plan which suits your own lifestyle and budget etc....

so we will chat later..promise
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:28 AM
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listen to garra, his advice is sound
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Garra you must of been sent from heaven just reading the advice you have given me makes me feel good and yes i will take your advice and put it into practice thank you very much
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Does this soup diet sound over the top
Enough for one person for two days
Ingredients
3 tomatoes
2 large cans of crushed tomatoes
2 cans of liquid stock (beef, chicken or vegetable)
2 cups of water
1 packet of vegetable or French onion dry soup powder
1 bunch spring onions
1 bunch of celery, including leaves
2 cups of green beans
3 green capsicums
1kg carrots
2 stock cubes (chicken, beef or vegie)

Method
1. Chop all the vegies into small pieces and put them in a big pot with the remaining ingredients.

2. Add salt and pepper (not too much salt).

3. Boil rapidly for two minutes and simmer until it is nice and tender.

4. If you want it thinner add a bit more water.

Have as much of the soup as you want, whenever you want.

Seven-day eating plan
The quantities recommended are per day.
Avoid toast and cereal for breakfast while on this plan. Stick with the recommended foods for each day.

You should only follow this seven-day eating plan for a maximum of three times in six months.

Day one
SOUP AND FRUIT: Eat any fruit except bananas because they are high in kilojoules. Eat as much as you want. If you do not want soup for breakfast, have a fruit salad instead.

Day two
SOUP AND VEGIES, NO FRUIT: Eat as much fresh, raw or lightly steamed vegies as you like. Leafy greens are great but avoid peas, corn and beans as they are high in sugar. Reward yourself at night with a jacket potato, a little butter or better still, some yoghurt.

Day three
SOUP, VEGIES AND FRUIT: Eat all you want but no potatoes.

Day four
SOUP AND BANANA SMOOTHIES: Make a banana smoothie with low-fat or skim milk because it is a great source of potassium. Have a maximum of three large bananas per day.

Day five
SOUP, BEEF AND TOMATOES: Eat a piece of lean beef or a skinless breast of chicken no bigger than a deck of cards with six luscious tomatoes. Vegetarians can substitute tofu. These quantities are per day. You can go easy on the soup today.

Day six
SOUP, BEEF AND VEGIES: Eat plenty of beef (or skinless chicken or fish) and vegies today. Again, vegetarians can substitute tofu. You might not need soup as much but your body will tell you. No potatoes.

Day seven
SOUP, BROWN RICE, VEGIES AND FRUIT JUICE: You might need more soup today.

Remember: do not eat any bread, fried foods or oil on the seven-day plan.

Drinks


While on the plan, do not have any soft drinks or alcohol.
Plenty of water - six to eight glasses a day.

Side effects


Because you're not consuming many carbohydrates, some may find the glucose in their bloodstream becomes too low, causing hypoglycaemia.
This can cause a range of symptoms, such as headache, sweatiness, anxiety, irritability and drowsiness.
Don't worry, it might sound awful but it's easily fixed.
Have a sandwich with whole-grain bread, a slice of low-fat cheese and a bit of ham but no butter or margarine. Vegetarians can try a low-fat cheese and tomato sandwich. But only have a maximum of one sandwich per day.

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Old 07-24-2008, 05:23 AM
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id prefer if you broke your meal plan into a daily as oppossed to a weekly schedule..

This is how id do it if was you....

Breakfast:

3 egg whites, 2 slices Low gi bread with 50g low fat cottage cheese and 1 cup of black coffee with no sugar, followed with 500mg water

Next meal: 2-3 hours later

whey protein shake, 500ml water


Lunch: Grilled tuna steak/chiken breast with 100g steamed veggies with 500ml water

Tea: Id have your soup, 500ml water

Supper: 100g chicken breast with more veggies...include greens like brocolli brussel sprouts etc, 500ml water

before bed snack: whey protein...
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BZYA, you seem to have no understanding of what foods contain sugars and fuctose.
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BZYA, you seem to have no understanding of what foods contain sugars and fuctose.

You are so right i was brought up on pie and chips as for carbs, sugars and other things i have no idea i am learning (very slowly) i know it sounds like a cop out but i would love to now exactly what to buy and what to eat i have a little idea about protien :egg whites and steak i now know about brown rice and brown pasta but thats my limit and everytime i ask my wife or she see's me looking at all the information i am given (i print it all off) she just say's you know what you are supposed to be eating but really i have no idea at this time i believe i am not eating enough as i am so desperate to lose my weight i would just drink water if it would help (i know it wouldn't) i have always had a physical job so i know i can get my strength back, as time goes by i will post out some pictures (not a pretty sight at the moment)(even for me) Thanks for your time for looking at my thread BYZA69
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i would just drink water if it would help (i know it wouldn't)
But it will!!! Drink water, and every once in a while coffee(black, no sugar, no cream) and skim milk. As much as you and/or I want it to, this is not going to happen overnight. I am in the same boat as you are. If you listen and put the things they say into practice you will lose weight, but not in 3 days. I started my new and improved diet this Monday, and though I feel like shit because of the lack of carbs, the guys assured me that would pass in time. And I believe them. If you want to change your body you have to change your life. I think everyone here would agree with me. The key is protein. Watch the Milos Sarcev videos if you have not already, all of them. I will try to find the link and edit it in later.


Here is the link to the thread with the Milos Sarcev videos...............

Lots of great info about dieting. "Look Here"
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i have a physically demanding job myself byza, many days im going up and down stairs all day or climbing ladders basically im on my feet all day, the first thing i did when trying to lose weight was learned WHEN to eat fuel foods (fats and carbs) i started out the day by loading up on carbs (oatmeal mostly and then bagel around 2.5 hours after breakfast, when luch comes around i think to my self "do i need more fuel? do i need more energy? am i going to be going home in the next 3-4 hours? if so i will take in just a few more slow carbs (whole grain breads or as close to them as i can get, and or oatmeal, yams, unripe bananas) as the day winds down i only eat lean protine foods, eggwhites, lowfat cottage cheese, chicken,steak,soy foods. eat often and eat only what you need to fuel your self for the day. keep in mind that sugar is a carb, its a really fats carb, meaning the energy stored in sugar will need to be used extremly fast, there is a place for sugars in the diets of people like you and me, for instance i will some times grab a gatorade and take in the carbs from that after being in the sun for a few hours, or running up and down stairs for 3 hours, but again that is instant fuel reloading.

to add to all this fuel talk keep in mind that as you figure out what carbs your taking in, you must also always keep a steady intake of protine with every meal i highly recomend you watch that video collection that has been posted on here and learn the basics.
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BZYA, you seem to have no understanding of what foods contain sugars and fuctose.

You are so right i was brought up on pie and chips as for carbs, sugars and other things i have no idea i am learning (very slowly) i know it sounds like a cop out but i would love to now exactly what to buy and what to eat i have a little idea about protien :egg whites and steak i now know about brown rice and brown pasta but thats my limit and everytime i ask my wife or she see's me looking at all the information i am given (i print it all off) she just say's you know what you are supposed to be eating but really i have no idea at this time i believe i am not eating enough as i am so desperate to lose my weight i would just drink water if it would help (i know it wouldn't) i have always had a physical job so i know i can get my strength back, as time goes by i will post out some pictures (not a pretty sight at the moment)(even for me) Thanks for your time for looking at my thread BYZA69
Bro..dont stress...the fact that you are willing to learn is all that matters. You have obviously been ill-informed for most of your life but now you are willing to make a change so much respect to you..

Like i said a diet is something really personal....i have run diets and workout plans designed by other people but i find that nutrition plans which i have personnaly formulated really work the best...

What id suggest to is look at the diet and nutrition sections of the forum and familiarise yourself with the different types of food recommeneded for weightloss..incoprporate these foodstuffs into a diet plan which is conveniant for your wife to prepare and also easy on your pocket...
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