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Old 04-24-2004, 12:14 PM
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Hello all, first post here, i think. I haven't been getting very good feedback on other boards so I thought I would try over here.

1)I have seen two methods described for sub-q injections. one is to pinch the skin and inject into the fat. I have seen this described for both hgh and slin. I have also seen it described as pinching the skin and instructing to inject in the "tent" or "pocket" between the dermal layer and the muscle tissue.

Which is correct? How do you guys that are 5%bf and less inject if you don't have any fat to inject into? This is my dilemma. I could easily do both slin and hgh IM in the bis/tri/shoulders, but would just like some clarification on the sub-q method.


2)I would like some clarification regarding the length of time considered safe for running t3. I know the general consensus is no longer than 6wks, so I would like some advise for cycling w/ a 6mo hgh cycle.

I only dose the t3 at 10-25mcg/day to keep my levels up from the hgh. Should I jsut switch to guggulsterones inbetween each 6 week cycle of t3


3)I am currently running 2iu hgh (mornings) and 10iu slin (post workout/evenings).

I start pct in 10 days, and will be adding 40mcg lr3 igf-1 split morning and evening, and adding another 10iu slin in the morning.

What recommendations do you have for adjusting the slin dosage relattive to the igf-1?

I have searched this extensivley, and have only been able to come up with suggestions to cut the normal slin dosage in half.

Thank you for any assistance.
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Old 04-25-2004, 11:07 PM
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Well as for the slin and GH, it will be tougher to do it by the method you described. That is the method I have done, but where can you find the most bodyfat on your body? You're abs around the belly button for instance may be 5% or less, but what about the love handles or lower back? 5% is the average bodyfat percentage taken from measurements all over the body. Find the place on the body that has the greatest percentage if the stomach area is too tough to try. You may have to find someone who can help you though.

BTW, at an average of 5% BF why in the world are you interested in T3?
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Old 04-26-2004, 04:34 AM
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No need to split the igf doseage in two. Once a day is sufficient. The reason that gh is typically split in two is due to its very short halflife. Igf has a much longer halflife. I've seen it said that you can run about 12.5 mcg's of t3 without suppressing your natural thyroid production for longer periods of time, so you could probably get away with stretching the 6 week time frame.
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Thanks guys,

I only use t3 in small amounts for three reasons:

1) increase protien synthesis

2) keep t3 levels up when dieting low cal and low carbs.

3) buffer the effect of hgh on lowering t3 levels.

If I am misguided on any of these points, please advise.

As far as the sub-q injection goes, do I have to inject the hgh into fat? is it not just as effective shooting into the empty pocket between the skin and muscle tissue? Any erason why it can't be shot IM? I have no need for spot reduction.

Thank you for your assitance.
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Old 04-27-2004, 08:32 AM
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You can shoot it IM, but you'll regret it. I've never done it, but I've heard more than once that it hurts like hell. Stick with the sub-q
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I have shot the hgh and slin IM, and no pain. the sub-q does raise a small welt, which is a little sensitive. I shoot hcg IM as well, and never had any pain, though I mix the hgh and hcg w/ basic bacteriostatic water. that could be why, as I have heard that some solvents sent out with hgh kits can be more painful.
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i would shoot i.m.,just make sure to add enough water with it,otherwise the ba will eat muscle tissue.I also found shooting 2x's a day better than once and i tried to space them around 12hrs. apart.
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