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Old 05-22-2006, 03:44 PM
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Default ephedrine's effects on hgh

Hey just asking but what are the effects of something like lipodrene on hgh if any? Trying to loose some weight and therefore didn't want to negate the effects of the hgh shots.
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Old 05-27-2006, 04:42 PM
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hmmmmmmm interesting.......don't know that there are any........
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A related came up on another board today: what is the effect of ephedrine on Thyroid? It was posited that "EC stimulates the deiodinase in the liver that converts t-4-> t3"

Seems to me like that would tie into the GH question - if GH causes a dip in T3 levels, and that's part of the "bulking" feature, then if you do anything to increase T3, you'll increase it's fat burning potential. Since T3 is catabolic, I'd think that would also decrease it's muscle building potential.
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beta-2 agonists will effect (inhibit) GH release. Here's a chart showing (in both the human and the rodent), the various neuropeptides and neurotransmitters which contribute to secretion or inhibition of GH release:




Summary representation of the putative roles of the principal neuropeptides and neurotransmitters that supervise GH secretion via GHRH or somatostatin (SS) or by acting directly on the pituitary gland (GH) in the rat (panel A) or human (panel B). Asterisks denote that two or more loci of action are recognized. Not shown are numerous other metabolic and hormonal effectors that also act via multiple pathways, e.g., IGF-I, sex steroids, age, glucocorticoids, diabetes mellitus, obesity, T4, etc. (see text). An unproven role for a putative (as yet unidentified) GHRP-like endogenous ligand is also noted, given that receptors for GHRP ligands are expressed in the hypothalamus and pituitary gland. Table 4 gives some further species distinctions among the rat, sheep, and human.

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That is great!
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