my grandpas diabetic meds for faster ketosis

[Don-Vittorio]

I want to snap into ketosis quick. I was thinking of taking his tolazimide 250mg to raise my bodies natural insulin levels production. For like two days that is. I herd with a lower bloodsugar you produce ketons quicker. Can I get some knowlage please.

[EveRaything]

never messed w/tolazimide.but played w/insulin twice.once w/growth,and the other to ingest my orals quicker.my exp,i went up to 8 iu a day.and felt real weak 1/2 hr after shot.be carefuf and learn as much as possible on the reactions of a non diebetic person.and have a remedy on hand for adverse reactions.

[Don-Vittorio]

You know now that I think about it...if I can get my hands on good gear, I don't see why I can't just get insulin. Ill look around. At least then I can get more info from people who know what's up. That seems to be the way to go anyhow. But once I get it I guess I take the stuff in small doses every 2 hrs in one evening correct? Then I wake up in a state of ketosis? its seems like a real short process with the insulin rite?

[BusterD]

I copied this from a website and I dont really like messing with it due to my inexperience with it but its a good read.


4. A controversial secret for getting into fat burning ketosis faster with Humulin R-8 hours instead of 3 days-and how you can get it!

There is a hardcore trick the pro's use that forces your body into ketosis within only 8 to 12 hours allowing more time for the body to burn fatty acid stores before your carb-up stage. The trick, originally brought to my attention by Dan Duchaine, is the use of Humulin R injectible insulin. Humulin R insulin is important compared to other types of insulin because it reaches its peak effect in 2 hours, causing a quick metabolic shift into ketosis. Using small amounts of insulin will cause your blood glucose to drop, in a quick and controlled manner. Glucose levels hit about 50 mg/ml and force your body into ketosis at a much faster rate. Insulin is one of the most controversial drugs used in bodybuilding today. The reality is that if you slip up and use too much insulin, you could enter a hypoglycemic coma, which could cause irreversible damage to your body and in some cases prove fatal. Please note that that the following information is highly controversial and provided solely for informational purposes.

Despite the controversy surrounding its use insulin is one of the easiest substances in bodybuilding to obtain legally. It is available over the counter in most U.S. states and costs between $20-$30 in local pharmacies and is even cheaper through U.S. mail order pharmacies. In most U.S. states a prescription is required to purchase and possess the insulin syringes used to administer the drug. This problem can be avoided by ordering syringes from mail order sources. A person using insulin for bodybuilding purposes should face no real legal ramifications. The only problems that can arise is getting caught possessing syringes with out a script or actually selling insulin for any purpose other than the treatment of diabetes.

A glucometer, to display your blood glucose levels, is highly recommended while attempting to use insulin safely. A glucometer costs around $100. It is possible to use insulin without a glucometer if your are cautious but it is not recommended. You will also need to purchase insulin syringes that hold up to 100 units. Do not use regular syringes. You will need to measure out precise amounts of insulin, between 2-3 units, which cannot be measured accurately using a regular syringe.

Here's how it works:
After you eat your last carb meal on Sunday night, you will need to take a reading on the glucometer to check your blood glucose level. The body's normal blood glucose level is usually between 80mg/ml and 120 mg/ml. At this point, draw 2-3 units of insulin into a syringe and inject it subcutaneously into a fold of skin. After waiting between two or three hours, take another reading with the glucometer. You blood glucose level will have dropped since your last measurement. Again inject 2 units of insulin and measure your blood glucose level around 2 hours after your injection. Repeat this cycle until your blood glucose level is between 55 mg/ml and 65 mg/ml. When your blood glucose is at this level, you will descend into ketosis while you sleep. ALWAYS REMEMBER TO STAY AWAKE FOR AT LEAST 2 HOURS AFTER AN INSULIN INJECTION. The last thing you want is to fall asleep after an injection and have your blood glucose drop to a dangerously low level while you sleep. You could fall into a hypoglycemic coma and no one will recognize the symptoms until it is too late.

Upon waking in the morning, measure your urine with the Ketostix. Measuring ketones in the morning is necessary because the sticks show only the unused level of ketones in your body and should show trace to moderate ketone levels. If you measure them in the afternoon the numbers will not be as accurate, because most of the ketones that were produced will have been used by your body as fuel.

If you do not have access to a glucometer, you will need to be much more cautious when attempting to use insulin. Since you will not be able to accurately measure your blood glucose, only small amounts of insulin should be used. You can start out with 2 units of insulin after your carb meal on Sunday. After that you should not use anymore than 1-1 1/2 units of insulin every two hours. A total of two or three injections should be made and then you should measure with the ketostix upon waking in the morning. If you still have not entered ketosis, use insulin injections of 1-1 1/2 units every two hours until you enter ketosis. This way takes longer, but you should enter ketosis within 18-20 hours.

In the not too distant future, Insulin intake will become even easier. Thanks to a new insulin inhaler, by Generex, insulin injections may become relics of the past. The inhaler sprays insulin out into the mouth like a mist, which coats the membranes of the mouth, throat and tongue. The insulin then passes quickly through the membranes into the bloodstream. The new insulin inhaler is in phase two clinical trials. If all goes well, the Food and Drug Administration could put it on a fast track for approval, making it available on the market in less than two years.

it but its good info.

[EveRaything]

all i can say is what and how i did. w/growth 3 iu in am and 2 in early eve. on the other thing, i'd pre mix my orals w/-say apple juice. do the insulin,and drink the mix 1/2 hr later.start slow. as it can put you into a coma. and try to explain that one to everyone

[Don-Vittorio]

That's what I was looking for for sure guys. But what is "growth" and what kinds of "orals".

[Morskaya_Pekhota]

Vittorio... brother... :::shakes head::: I hope you know I don't mean any disrespect, but when the Corps was giving out brains they must have accidentally issued you a box of rocks instead. You're going to kill yourself, son. Unless you're a professional, seasoned, veteran bodybuilder you have no business dicking around with insulin. Just because others have done it doesn't mean it's to be done. Messing around with hormones is one thing, but if you fuck this up it will kill you. I'm no expert on the subject, but I don't know much about tornadoes either; other than to stay the fuck away from them. I implore you not to do this. Whatever changes you want to make in your body can be accomplished with proper diet and exercise... you know this. If you don't have the knowledge and discipline to do it the natural way, you don't have the knowledge and discipline to do it this way either brother.

Of course, you're your own man and you'll make your own way in life. Eventually someone far more knowledgeable than I will see this thread and give you his opinion. I hope you will heed whatever he says, whether he be for or against this option for you, and follow his instruction to the letter. You're a pain in the ass sometimes, but I'd miss you if you never woke up from your diabetic coma. Be safe, Vittorio. Semper Fi.

[Don-Vittorio]

Lol. That made me smile. Your absolutly rite. I have been getting along just fine anyhow. Ill take the 3 day extra carb cut over the coma anyday. Thak you much. Merry x mas. I'm gunna go break this chick off some holiday lovin now. . And don't worry I wraped my gift!! Hehehe

[EveRaything]

good,mp;s absolutly right. answer to yor ques.growth--hgh . orals--stan tabs and d-dol

[need2]

Just so you know. There is no margin of error with slin. You fuck up and you are dead. Or at best fucked up for life.

Let me make it clear to everyone. Unless you are at a pro level (which means in the top 200 biggest mother fuckers in the world) do not even think about using this.


Still read up on the subject if you just have to use it ( I still advice against it). Acnemans Insulin FAQ

This drug needs to be treated with caution. If you aren´t willing to read as much as possible on insulin before using it, then you aren´t ready to use it at all.Screw up with this stuff, and you die. You will go into a coma, and die. And I´m talking about simply taking too much of this stuff once. one fuck up and you are dead... Lets think about that for a second...

Lets think about it one more time. ONE TIME!!!!! NOT A FEW TIMES, NOT OVER TIME, MESS UP ONE TIME AND YOU ARE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!

Is what ever you need it for really that damn importent to you??? I don't think so.