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Old 02-20-2009, 04:09 PM
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I know GH is more effective with insulin. My question is GH safe without insulin. I know results will suffer, but anything else? Basically I'm asking if GH can be taken standalone and still be somewhat beneficial. Thanks.
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Dude, GH is safer without insulin. You can kill yourself with one mistake with that. Not worth the risk IMO. I haven't used GH, only because its not in the budget but have read quite a bit. It is effective by itself but its better when run along side an aas like test. You will see better gains. Ther are some GH and peptide vets here so I'm sure they will chime in.
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Ive run GH for 3yrs solid..everyday. Ive never run insulin. Somewhat beneficial..? As Florida has pointed out it will be very beneficial when stacked with AAS. By itself..eh..not what I would choose to do but wouldnt steer somebody away from running it alone. Im a big fan of HGH for the simple reason that I cant really find alot of negative information on it. Growth is just an overall good product with many positive attributes. The only negative I find with it..is that its quite pricey to be run effectively. As early as just 18months ago you were able to find blue tops for as little as $100/kit. Now im seeing it for as muh as $600/kit. That should tell you something..demand is high because it works. I cant really comment on how it runs well or not so well with insulin because ive never run the 2 together. I have run it with IGF-1 tho and aside from feeling a little stomach bloat occasionally..i really cant complain. Theres absolutely no doubt in my mind that either solo or stacked, HGH aids in keeping you lean. Stacking seems to produce MUCH better results. Other things Ive noticed is fast recovery and no illness. I can workout for an hr solid, weather heavy lift or light weight/high rep and the personal bests seem endless. Never any fatigue or soreness. You`re ready the next day..i had no problem making it to the gym daily even if justto work core and cardio. In those 3 yrs I cant ever remeber even experiencing a head cold. Immune system boosted. Stamina..overall and in the bedroom...thru the roof. I sleep better and have really wild, memorable dreams. Smoother skin that looks more healthy.

Okay..some sides. Excessive hair growth. Ive never been one to have ANY hair on chest or stomach. Since i started using growth..hair just gone wild. Noticeable around navel area and nips, eyebrows..also around bung..lol. I mentioned the bloat. Long term use ALWAYS makes my fingertips, knuckes tingle..feels like your hand is asleep. Ive noticed a more pronounced forehead/brow. Deepening of the voice..people ask me..why are u yelling? ED injections suck..but benefits worth it. (Sub-q is easy).

In the end..its a well known fact that HGH is the closest thing we have to "turning back the hands of time." Ever since Rudman made public his first findings on the positive effects of HGH and its almost "youthful" characteristics..people have been intrigued by it in the same sense that people loved the movie Caccoon. Nobody wants to get old and the thought of reversing the aging process and becoming young again is appealing. Like Rudman..if you consider aging to be a disease, then HGH is the closest thing we have to a cure for aging. Basically..HGH puts hormone levels back to that of adolescence.

When I run HGH without IGF...4iu/day. When supplementing 60mcgs IGF..i drop it to 2iu since HGH converts to IGF in a matter of hours. I always take HGH right when i wake up..when insulin levels are low. IGF i always take preworkout, spotted in the muscles being worked..the pumps are amazing. If you can afford it..do it..you wont ever hear any complaints from me.
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