HGH Protocol

[Vrex]

Originally Posted by Celtic Beast

The reasoning is that ED or EOD protocol is usually adopted depending on half life's of AAS - as the half life of Growth is so short this protocol is not necessarily relevant.

The circulating half-life of hGH is relatively short, 20-30 minutes, (while its biological half-life is much longer, 9-17 hours, due to its indirect effects). Precisely this short half-life makes it beneficial to dose twice during "on" days. As mentioned earlier, alternating days allows the receptors to recover and become more responsive. Children who received HGH on alternate days grew significantly more than those who received it every day.
Here are a couple of interesting extensionist articles I found on HGH with good info:

The Life Extension Manual - Human Growth Hormone

Just a few of the many benefits:

● Increases muscle

● Decreases fat

● Increases skin thickness

● Smoothes out skin wrinkles

● Improves exercise tolerance

● Reverses heart failure

● Improves pulmonary function in people with chronic lung disorders

● Increases restorative REM sleep

● Increases energy and endurance

● Protects mental function and appears to help in the treatment of neurological and mental disorders such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diseases, and multiple sclerosis

● Enhances mental alertness and memory

● Increases the size of the thymus, the body's principal immune system gland

● Increases natural killer cell lymphocyte activity, a measure of immune system function

● Greatly increases longevity in animal studies

● Causes weight gain in frail elderly

● Causes some regrowth and regeneration of organs (liver, kidneys, and spleen) that have shrunk with age

● Normalizes serum cholesterol levels

● Causes hair and nails to improve in strength and appearance

● Speeds healing after surgery and trauma

● Greatly improves the quality of life in AIDS patients

Why does the government criminalize the use of a substance which IMPROVES health? It is even a federal crime for doctors to prescribe HGH for any other an a couple of very specific conditions. It is a crime for doctors to prescribe a product which is known to improve the health of their patients! How crazy is that?

[CJP]

Well Vrex you have done your reaserch. I have done a fair bit myself too, i dont like to just jump into something without knowing what will happen. Thats cool that you posted all that info up though, i'm sure there are alot of people that would like to see those facts. The one thing that sucks about HGH is that it will not do anything for your eyes. I am a welder and i need to be careful at work, that would be nice if growth could reverse the effects welding can have. And Celtic Beast, you are 100% right about listening to people with personal experience and good results. I tried doing 2 types of methods. 1 shot a day and 2 shots a day. With 1 a day i would do it right before i went to bed. When doing 2 shoots i would still do one right before bed but for the second i would get up an hour and a half earlier than what i had to get up at and do a shoot and then go back to bed. Either way you do it 1 or 2 shoots a day, you would use the same amount, just cut them in half if doing 2. The reason i would get up and do 1 and then go back to bed is because when you eat your bodys insulin levels go up and if your insulin levels are high when you do a shoot of HGH it wont have as much potency to it. So i would do it an hour and a half before i ate breakfast so my insulin levels would be down.

Thats the way that i learned to do it from researching it. I know people that do it right after training and that have there shake right away too. There insulin would be up but it still works for them. Its hard to say which is best because both techniques have lots of info on them. I myself never read anything about doing it without worrying about when you last ate but my friend has and it works for him. I think its about what body type you are and how you react to things. Its tricky stuff and not by any means cheap but its does wonders for you.

There alot more i could say about this but will end it here. Vrex has posted up some good info so if you want to read more about it check his link on HGH info.

[Celtic Beast]

Originally Posted by Vrex

The circulating half-life of hGH is relatively short, 20-30 minutes, (while its biological half-life is much longer, 9-17 hours, due to its indirect effects). Precisely this short half-life makes it beneficial to dose twice during "on" days.

I am aware of this protocol and this is the protocol I follow currently.
However, you missed the point...
Which gives greater gains 2 i.u. twice daily for 5 days or 5 i.u. post workout for 4 sessions a week?

This is the question I posed. Your suggestion is that the longer GH is in the system the better even if it is a significantly smaller dose than using the post workout 'pulsating' of large dose.

[stacked88]

sorry about the miss understanding. Really good info though. did no anything about hgh. learned alot.

Keep it going.

I did hear anything about the negatives?Whats the down fall of hgh?
I always wondered cause I know selvester stalon is a known user of hgh and he is jacked at a elderly age.

thanks stacked

[CJP]

Originally Posted by stacked88

sorry about the miss understanding. Really good info though. did no anything about hgh. learned alot.

Keep it going.

I did hear anything about the negatives?Whats the down fall of hgh?
I always wondered cause I know selvester stalon is a known user of hgh and he is jacked at a elderly age.

thanks stacked

There really is no down fall to HGH. Its not like steroids that stop your natural test production. HGH wont screw your natural HGH production up unless you use it when you are really young. Some people think that when you come off it your skin will get really loose and your muscles with turn to dust. This is not the case at all. Because HGH takes so long to start working it takes a while for it to stop working. And even though your natural HGH production is still working, the synthetic HGH slowly leaves your system so its not like you just stop using it when you do your last shoot.

[CJP]

Oh and the reason Selvester Stalon uses it and so many other older people use it is because as you get older your natural HGH levels go down by 80%. Lake of HGH in a body is the reason people get brain diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diseases. All this has been answered in previous posts so go check those ones out too.

[Vrex]

Originally Posted by Celtic Beast

Which gives greater gains 2 i.u. twice daily for 5 days or 5 i.u. post workout for 4 sessions a week?

For maximum benefit I would dose twice per day, alternating days. I don't think it matters whether you dose before or after workouts. The effects are long-term which is why you have to take it for long periods to see the benefits; but the effects are truly remarkable. (Naturaly hGH is released at night while you sleep, so you might want to take the second dose (pulse) right before bed to mimic the natural release pattern.)

Originally Posted by stacked88

I did hear anything about the negatives?Whats the down fall of hgh?

Just as CJP says there really aren't many negatives. I guess if you really took way too much for way too long, you might eventually see growth abnormalities/deformities. That would take really excessive amounts. hGH really is a a very remarkable wonder elixir with astounding benefits and with little downside. The principal downside is finding a reliable source at a reasonable price. Beware that most of the stuff on the street is fake, or sometimes HCG is claimed to be HGH. Reported side effects (again with excessive use) are: carpal tunnel syndrome, enlarged organs and a thickening of the bones. " Other side effects of using Human Growth Hormone include edema (swelling of feet and hands), tingling or numbness in the feet and hands and decreases in insulin reception and thyroid function. Since Human Growth Hormone increases the growth rate and size of cells, this includes cancer cells, so it is not recommended that people with cancer or a high risk of cancer use Human Growth Hormone." Human Growth Hormone

[CJP]

HGH used to be alot more expensive then it is now but it is still rather pricey. Worth every penny though. Unfortunately Vrex is right about the counterfeits. Because it costs so much its so appealing to fake. Even if HCG is sold as HGH you can make a killing. Not that im saying you should start doing that. Side effects are possible but fairly rare as long as you dont over do it. It also depends on your body type. You might just react to it differently and have negative results. If anyone is thinking about doing it, you should definitely do lots of research on it. Makeing sure you are getting the real thing is very important too so make sure you dont buy some from a guy that sells jewelry and watches from one side of his coat and various drugs from the other. LOL. When something is very expensive you should know as much as possible about it to maximize your gains and avoid the risks.
Good luck to any that paln on using it.

[Vrex]

Since HGH is so important for overal good health as well as bodybuilding, some people might be interested to know that there are proven ways to boost your body's natural production of hGH. Getting a good night's sleep is the most important thing, since hGH is only released during the deep stage of sleep. Anything that interferes with deep sleep like caffeine, alcohol, etc. can completely shut down your body's hGH production. Certain supplements especially taken right before bed can boost production, including ZMA (zinc-magnesium-aspartate) B complex, GABA, melatonin and the amino acid arginine. Here is a longer list from Luke Bucci, Ph.D., an hGH researcher of the University of Utah :

■Amino acids. Those studied consisted of L-ornithine, to which 25 percent of people responded with increased HGH secretion, plus L-glutamine, L-glycine, and L-tryptophan (also called 5-HT; which releases HGH but also causes drowsiness). L-dopa (dopamine) also releases HGH but has many side effects, some dangerous.
■Mixtures of amino acids. The mixture of ornithine and arginine worked in combination much better than either alone, and at much lower doses. Research on this combination remains in its early stages, with little known about it.
■Dipeptides. Some workers have shown arginine aspartate, or arginine pyroglutamate combined with L-lysine, will cause HGH increases. One test of the latter in 25-year-old men raised their growth hormone levels while they slept.
■Peptides. Peptides are basically small proteins, and most of those studied consist of parts of GHRH (growth hormone releasing hormone) put out by the hypothalamus. The sequence now farthest along in testing and study is GHRP6, named hexarelin by the company studying it. (Of all substances he reviews, Bucci believes hexarelin may be closest to use as a drug.) Others have tried shorter sub-sequences of HGH, but without as much effect. Intravenous doses of cholesystokinin, a hormone produced by our gall bladder, and involved in controlling our digestive system, have also increased HGH secretion; since it requires intravenous dosage, its interest for oral use is low. It still raises interesting questions about how HGH secretion works, however. Bombesin, a toxin produced by glands on the skin of some toads, increases HGH secretion, too.
■Organic acids. Several have increased HGH, though sometimes only intravenously. Bucci listed ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate, which releases HGH when given at 10 gram oral doses, but which requires much less when given intravenously.
■Hormones. Melatonin has an interesting effect in that it increases the response to the other stimulants of secretion. Melatonin at a dose of 10 mg doubles response to arginine aspartate, glutamine, glycine, and the GHRH fragments. Dopamine, the neurohormone and neurotransmitter mentioned above, also increases secretion. DHEA and pregnenolone may also increase secretion of HGH (Bucci used the word "may" here himself. The reasons for believing that either hormone would increase HGH at present are theoretical only).
■B vitamins. The major B vitamin involved is calcium pantothenate given intravenously. A combination of two molecules of pantothenate, called pantothene, also worked.

[CJP]

Great info Vrex. There are also several different types of supplements that are specifically designed to boost your natural HGH production. There are also some oral sprays that will give you an increase in HGH production. None of these compare to Synthetic HGH but they will help. They are cheaper and legal and because of this they are not as effective but are a good substitute for the real stuff.