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Old 03-24-2008, 05:27 PM
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Okay I am about to start training for the next 4 weeks on dianabol ( I know I should stack it with some longer lasting testosterone, but for my first time I am just using dianabol) 10mg tabs and I will take three a day for a total of 30mg's per day. I am currently 5', 11", 155 lbs, 6% Body Fat, training 3 1/2 years...

This is my workout routine:
First week- 3 x 10
Monday: Chest & Legs
Tuesday: Arms & Abs
Wed: Shoulders & Back
Thursday: Chest & Legs
Friday: Arms & Abs
Saturday: Running for 2 1/2 miles
Sunday: off

Second week- 3 x 8 (with heavier weight)
Monday: Arms
Tuesday: Off
Wed: Chest
Thursday: Off
Friday: Back
Saturday: Shoulders
Sunday: Off

I eat a lot, very high in protein with tons of chicken, fish, and a little red meat. Oatmeal, cerials, fruit, dairy, etc...

My questions are: Is my work out routine okay? should I switch up my on off days? Should I eat differently/more? How much should I gain? Should I cycle to make the 4 weeks longer?

What does everyone think... criticism/ideas/flaming is completely welcome! I would rather be told exactly how to do this, and do it right, than not ask and waste my time and money. Thanks
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:49 PM
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Old 03-24-2008, 06:18 PM
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I agree. you will lose anything you gain from the dbol.

and your workout....I do abs EVERY day.
I think you should look around here at some other peoples splits and change your workout a bit.

And again...you will be wasting your money if you do a dbol only cycle.
You WILL lose all your gains.

Go with Test E or C 250-500mg/wk for 12 wks.

Also, what is your diet like? how many meals a day, how many calories a day, how much protein a day, etc.....
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:20 PM
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its hard for accept your gonna have to inject but its the bestand really the only route to go if your looking good lean keepable gains ... your gonna loose everything on the dbol and posin your liver for weeks basically for nothing so i think you should consider not using steroids until your ready to take the dart my friend ( everyone is nervous for the first injection ) i actaully look forward to my injections now
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Damn... I was afraid of that lol! I was hoping these testimonials were more correct...

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having found this to be the case for me when I did my first cycle (which was 6 weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day), I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly ½ of it. Since then, Dbol has always had a special place in my heart.
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My own experience with Dianabol was pretty impressive, in retrospect. I used a Bulgarian version of it for my first cycle, alone, and at a dose of 25mgs/day. I was training very heavy, and eating like a horse- and in six weeks I gained 28lbs. Granted, it was very watery weight, and did not particularly improve my athletic performance until I dieted off a lot of the water, but I was left weighing roughly 10-15lbs heavier, after several months of being off, and was able to keep those fifteen lbs for good.
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time to do a lot more research, because I hadn't even considered injections...
eat every couple hours, 2500-3500 calories, 150-200 grams of protein...
I guess I will be back once I can afford the stack...

Thanks everyone!

What do you think about these testimonials though?
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:48 AM
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eat every couple hours, 2500-3500 calories, 150-200 grams of protein...
Eating every couple hours is good, but that combined with your bf% (if it was done with calipers/water tank and not those electronic devices) this probably won't be enough food. I say shoot for 4,000 calories and at least 225 grams of protein (1.5 grams per lb of bodyweight). Definately look into doing a test only injectable cycle. I recommend using a longer ester form of it (Enanthate or Cypionate) so you won't have to do many injections.
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Thanks for the advise sicky My bf% was done by calipers (licensed nutritionist). So up my calories and protein, then look into taking "the dart"...
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Thanks for the advise sicky My bf% was done by calipers (licensed nutritionist). So up my calories and protein, then look into taking "the dart"...
Good, so the bf% is accurate. Just making sure because as a personal trainer, I find it ridiculous at how many people say "I'm 15% bf according to my scales (or other electronic device)" when they're actually like 25% bf lol. So yeah, get the diet tweaked, have a solid training routine set, run something like dashizzle said, and don't forget about your PCT .
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Good, so the bf% is accurate. Just making sure because as a personal trainer, I find it ridiculous at how many people say "I'm 15% bf according to my scales (or other electronic device)" when they're actually like 25% bf lol. So yeah, get the diet tweaked, have a solid training routine set, run something like dashizzle said, and don't forget about your PCT .
I agree, that MANY bF scales are crap. But, if you spend the money you can get a very accurate one. I spent $140 on a Tanita scale which is incredibly accurate. It also measures your metabolic age, and your hydration levels. The thing most people don't realize is that you need to be at the SAME hydration levels EVERY TIME you use the scale, or else it will alter the accuracy.
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Good advice guys.

The thing with d-bol is that it is mostly water weight that you accumilate while on but it does give some very impressive strength gains and is why is used primarily as kickstart to a lot of cycles. Obviously with that strength increase comes the chance to improve muscle growth so it is certainly possible to make some gains on d-bol but realistically they are not typically great.

With the scales my advice is to invest in a good quality one as Martano mentioned and have them checked against a caliper reading to see accuracy. I like you Martano have a great set of scales that provide all the same information your getting and know there accurate as I have checked them on a few occassions with caliper readings at the gym.
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