Greetings

[itlnstln]

It's been noted that Arnold, Franco, Lou, Frank, etc never used PCT while training, and they had some pretty unorthodox eating habits (almost ketonic)

Aside from PCT, do you think we (currently) have overanylized (for the almighty $$$) many newer approaches to AAS training, dieting; or do you think it all part of the evolution brought on by better science, etc.

I would really like to see some feedback as to how these guys survived their 4+ hour training session on the diets they had, how they would "laugh" at someone saying the phrase "overtraining", and how they brought all this together (with balls-to-the-wall intensity) without the PCT or designer AAS we have now.

Give us some of your opinions........................


Peace

[ricdrasin]

Their eating was pretty right on. Meat, eggs and cottage cheese were the norm. Protein drinks in between. No one ate a lot of junk except for sundays. Training was maybe an hour to hour and a half in the mornings and then another 45 min in the evenings but not all the time. No way did anyone have 4 hour work outs.

In the am, after training we all usually went to lunch and then laid on the beach and napped. Those were the days!!!!

[itlnstln]

Do you feel priviledged to have been around at that time - as a part of the pinnacle of bodybuilding, and right in the middle of it to boot?

[ricdrasin]

Sure. It was the greatest time of my lif e. It was so easy then and fun. Train in the morning and go to the beach and wrestle at night. What more could I ask for?? Then auditions for TV Shows and commercials during the day. It's the perfect life style. I'd like to go back and do it again.

[Spook]

I'd love to live a life where I could hit the gym in the morning, hit the beach after that, and then go to the film set for my action movie where I'm the lead actor.

Ah, who am I kidding. I'd just be happy to sleep 12 hours a day, get up for the gym, eat, rinse, repeat, go back to bed. Life gets too busy anymore.

[TheLion2005]

Originally Posted by itlnstln

It's been noted that Arnold, Franco, Lou, Frank, etc never used PCT while training, and they had some pretty unorthodox eating habits (almost ketonic)

Aside from PCT, do you think we (currently) have overanylized (for the almighty $$$) many newer approaches to AAS training, dieting; or do you think it all part of the evolution brought on by better science, etc.

I would really like to see some feedback as to how these guys survived their 4+ hour training session on the diets they had, how they would "laugh" at someone saying the phrase "overtraining", and how they brought all this together (with balls-to-the-wall intensity) without the PCT or designer AAS we have now.

Give us some of your opinions........................


Peace

IMO from what I saw in the 60's and 70's....

I never heard a discussion about cycles, gyno or pct. You took your pills or injections and looked for results. Trial and error were the watch words. Trying new things was the norm.

Chickens like me stayed with pills at dosages that are laughable today. 6 mg per day for example. The first time we watched a guy inject, you could hear a pin drop. He later was a Mr. O. Another Mr. O told me he thought 250 mg a week would kill a person and how he couldn't win a local contest today.

I think the science is a lot better today. I also think the stacks and dosages for the pros are beyond reach. What really bothers me is how we are not free to find and use what we want.

[Spook]

I've even heard of some top level athletes using various interleukins which I can't fathom as to how they obtain them short of ordering direct from a science supply company.

[hanuri]

Originally Posted by TheLion2005

I think the science is a lot better today. I also think the stacks and dosages for the pros are beyond reach. What really bothers me is how we are not free to find and use what we want.

So would a person who wants to drive his sports car at full speed everywhere say about speed limits? or a rockn´ roll style living musician say about cocaine, crack or so... To me it´s plain simple. Law is law. If it wasn´t such a potentially dangerous stuff ( not all understands the "moderation" ) for one´s health I could share your opinion , perhaps. Not to use myself , but share the opinion. In this our friend Rick comes in handy since he knows and tells it like he sees it. not only this chemical side ....

[ricdrasin]

I think anything is ok in moderation. But when you go extreme, expect extreme sid effects.