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    Default winstrol or clen?

    i want to lose fat and weight and want to know what would be a good stacking option with testosterone: winstorl or clenbuterol? i want to stay away from side effects and play all safe. i would be waiting for your expert replies. thanx.

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    First off - Steroids do not burn body fat. They increase muscle protein synthesis and prevent muscle catabolism. I feel like I am beating a dead horse saying this over and over but it's a very common misconception and something a lot of people get wrong. Bodybuilders commonly include steroids into their pre-contest cycles to prevent muscle loss when dieting on low calories and doing lots of cardio. The steroids themselves do not burn body fat.

    I personally am not a big fan of clenbuterol.
    Clenbuterol is very over rated. Here's why -
    Clen simply raises metabolism. It does not differentiate between muscle or fat. Clen might raise your metabolism an additional 100-200 calories per day. You could just easily do an extra 15 minutes of cardio. I have used clen in the past and I always felt it did more harm then good. It caused muscle cramps when I was training and it really negatively impacted my sleep.

    There are better alternatives that directly increase fat loss, with no risk of loosing muscle mass and no side effects like insomnia or muscle cramps. Cardarine gw is going to be your best option. It directly increases fat loss, endurance and recovery. It is not a stimulant or a hormone and is pretty much void of side effects.

    I haven't used clen myself in years and don't recommend it to my clients at all anymore. If they are trying to burn fat, I recommend cardarine and maybe a good nutrient partitioning supplement like n2slin from
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    musky summed it up above, i really cannot add much more except that steroids are serious business and come with some potentially serious side effects. if you wanted to 'play it safe' you should have refrained from hormones entirely. winstrol for example causes lots of sides. dry joints, headaches, suppression, head hair loss, liver toxicity, should i keep going?

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    No to all of them, even test. Steroids don't burn fat. Now, you can run test to prevent muscle loss while cutting but it doesn't burn fat for you. Clen is something I have because the side effects are so bad.

    Just focus on being in a caloric deficit and training hard. You will lose fat that way.

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    If you want to stay safe from sides - run away from clen and winstrol.

    Clen is pretty much a tablet full of side effects - shaky hands, cramps, raised heart rate and blood pressure. And it does very little for how much it fucks with your body.

    As for winny - it is also quite rough with the side effects. It causes hair loss, makes your joints dry and is quite liver toxic.

    A bit of stricter diet with some cardio will do more benefit than any of these two in terms of fat loss. Also, cardarine added to the mix would only benefit you.

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