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    Default help with my very first cycle

    i am thinking about using Sustanon 250 twice a week for 10 weeks. a friend of mine is suggesting me to rather try out testosterone enanthate 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks. which of these cycle options is good for a complete newbie?? i'm 24, 6" and 183lbs. goal is to gain lean muscles and lower body fat.

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    Test e and sustanon is the same thing for all real world purposes. Testosterone is testosterone. The only difference the ester makes is the half life and how frequently you need to inject.

    I personally like long estered forms of testosterone like test e, test cyp or test sust since you only need to inject them twice per week.

    Pick whichever you can get the cheapest. For a weekly dosage of 500mg/week, inject 250mg twice per week. Pick 2 days per week 3 days apart and inject 250mg on each of those days. For example, every Monday and Friday each week.

    Check out this video I made on how to run a first steroid cycle -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqBLCSaKsW4

    In this article series I explain how to do injections -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...2-a-49351.html

    Here's what I recommend:

    Weeks 1 - 10
    testosterone e or cyp 500mg/week (inject 250mg twice per week)
    aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- very important to prevent against estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention.

    After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perf...e-therapy-pct/
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    this is why 'buddies' don't give good advice and you should never listen to them

    sustanon is simply a blend of 4 testosterone esters. as musky said above, same shit but different esters. it boils down to your source and what they carry and what is dosed properly.

    person A will swear test cyp is better than test E. person B will swear sustanon is better than test cyp. in reality it was that they happened to use a better source or the same source put out a better batch.

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    This is pretty much the same thing. Sustanon is a testosterone mix with different esters, whereas enanthate is just long ester testosterone.

    While they do not differ too much, I would go with test e instead. Just a matter of preference.

    12 weeks, 500mg per week, preferably split into two dosages.

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    For a new guy I would probably go with Test C or Test E over sustanon. Even though they are basically the same thing, sustanon will have some extra PIP to it. Since it will be your first cycle you will have some PIP with virgin muscle so I would rather not see you use sust.

    In the end any of them will be good options. Make sure you run an AI like aromasin since test aromatizes heavily.

    For PCT I would run this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ed!-49252.html

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