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    Cool wants to get it right!!

    i did my first cycle with testosterone enanthate 500mg a week 10 months ago. results were great then. now wants to run the second and here for suggestions. would you recommend pinning test e 600mg a week along with deca 450mg a week and dbol 50mg ed for first 5 weeks in a 18 week cycle? also, should i include HCG 250iu twice a week. plz do let me know if i am right with the dosages of all.

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    Brother, ditch the HCG. It does more harm then good ->

    Also, 18 weeks is way too long. You are going to have major issues recovering after that. Stick to 12 weeks.

    Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
    1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
    2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.
    3. A DHT derivative to prevent against deca dick. proviron at 25mg/day is a good dosage.

    The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.

    I would also add in a good liver aid supplement like n2guard from when using the dbol because it is a liver toxic oral steroid.

    Here's what I recommend:

    Weeks 1 - 12
    testosterone 600mg/week
    deca 450mg/week
    proviron 25mg/day
    aromasin 12.5mg every other day
    cabergoline 0.25mg every other day

    Weeks 1 - 5
    dbol 30-50mg/day
    n2guard 7 capsules/day

    After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol:
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    In general terms, the cycle looks fine to me. However, you definitely want to avoid using HCG, as it has doubtful benefits in exchange for some very real side effects. What you should be taking with this cycle is an AI (it would be best to use aromasin), cabergoline, proviron and a good liver support, such as N2Guard. This will be quite a big cycle, so make sure to have the PCT prepped well in advance, and make sure to run a very comprehensive and complete PCT.

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    Feb 2013


    I like to let the compound do the work without the test interfering

    deca is a nice mild compound and doesn't cause a ton of water retention like people think, but you gotta run it the right way

    do 200mg test
    600mg deca
    50mg proviron a day
    hcgenerate/cardarine* optional

    perfect pct

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    I dont mind the dosage but cut the cycle down to 12 weeks. 18 weeks plus the esters is a really long time to be on. Also, drop the HCG. It has no purpose in a steroid cycle.

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