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Thread: First Cycle Help

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    Right now Im at 6'2' and 272 with 16% body fat. I have random drug testing until the end of season in February. Im going to use this time to get down to around 250 pounds and 12% body fat. Then Im going to start my cycle which looks something like this:
    Wk 1-12-Test Cyp-500mg/wk
    Wk 1-4-Dbol- 40mg/ed
    Wk 1-12-Adex-.25mg/eod,
    Wk 13-off
    Wk 14-off
    wk 15-Nolva 20mg/ed
    wk 16-Nolva 20mg/ed
    wk 17-Nolva 10mg/ed
    wk 18-Nolva 10mg/ed

    The only problem I see is the Dianabol. I have read that it kills cardio, and being an athlete, I can't have that. Is there any other oral I could take instead of the Dbol that will give me a good jump before the Test kicks in that wont kill my cardio?

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    At your BF, you're gonna weezing at any amount of cardio. I get winded tying my shoes, but just don't let it control you.

    Test prop made me pretty active.

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    You could use tbol, anavar or winstrol in place of dbol. There is a lot less water retention with those. I never noticed dbol effecting cardio for me but the extra water gain you make could cause that to be an issue at your size.

    The cycle overall looks good. I would add another week to the pct though and run the adex through week 16.
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    I will probably end up useing Dbol, but I have still been hearing mixed reviews on the cardio effect.

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    Never had any Cardio issues with Dbol, personally but it will blow you up with water retention etc. I would swap it out for either Winstrol tabs or even better, kickstart with Prop for the first 4 weeks while the Cyp is kicking in.

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    I wold go with the t-bol. It is like a combination of d-bol and var. I think you wold like it very much and would be pleased with the results more so that the d-bol.
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    Im not too familiar with T-bol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly51 View Post
    Im not too familiar with T-bol...
    DUDE!

    Tbol is awesome. My second favorite oral, behind var.

    Here's a little info on it..

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    Would I take the same amount as the Dbol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly51 View Post
    Would I take the same amount as the Dbol?
    Nope. Most people can get great gains from 35-50mg of dbol.

    I dose tbol just like I do var and winny. About 60-80mg ED.
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