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Thread: help on a test e/sust 250 cycle

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    Default help on a test e/sust 250 cycle

    Stats: 24 years old;
    training seriously since 2006;
    About 9-10% body fat/good genetics
    200 lbs


    This will be my second cycle. I'm wanting to run just Test-E for 12 weeks @250mg ew paired with Sustanon 250 for 12 weeks @250mg ew. So the cycle will look as follows:


    1-12 testosterone enanthate 250mg
    1-12 sustanon 250mg


    14-17 nolvadex (40/40/20/20)


    Anyone thoughts for best results? i.e maybe doing the sust for the first 4 weeks and then the the test e for 8 week following etc, 500mg/per week a good amount?
    Thanks in advise for any help

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    start 500mg sustanon per week and then swittch to test e 5oomg is enough u might need some hcg for ur nuts start when u finish ur cycle 1000iu for 10 days and than start ur pct
    edgard

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    personally I would run one or the other to keep your levels as stable as possible, sust has long and short esters attached where as test e has just a long ester, you can run it that way I have no doubt as the prop is only 30mg and pretty much a waste imo for pinning one or even twice a week, you'd have to inject every day to get the benefit from that. can you get enough of either to run a full cycle? imo you are still too young but as you say you have already run a cycle so will run it anyway. Do you have an AI on hand? and the nolva should be run 20/20/10/10/10
    Gaz... Life is what we make it, we have to work hard for what we want!

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    if it is all you have then yes start with the sust and switch to test e
    Gaz... Life is what we make it, we have to work hard for what we want!

    Building the foundations of my future, it has been a tough ride.

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    thanks for advise biggaz1979. I've got 1 x 10ml of sust 250 and 2 x 10mls of test e....This is looks more like the cycle i'm thinking of now:

    1-5 sust 500mg/week divided into 3 pins
    6-10 test e 750mg/week divided into 2 pins

    What do you suggest for an AI?

    As for the nolva 20/20/10/10/10, i've only got 20mg celmodex tabs???



    thanks eddgardd....you mean Human Chorionic Gonadotropin which you suggest after cycle and before pct, you said for your nuts. what did you mean by that exactly. I didn't have PCT for my first cycle and really want to do this one right...

    thanks for help/understanding on my limited knowledge

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    you need to allow for wastage as well dude, so aim for a 13-14 week cycle if that is all you have and all you can get, I recommend Armidex as your AI and wouldn't start the cycle until you have that and enough nolva for your PCT, you should never start until you have everything on hand and ready to roll. You won't need HCG imo I would get some chlomid to run with the nolva but thats my preference.
    Gaz... Life is what we make it, we have to work hard for what we want!

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    I would get everything in place and then come back to have a solid cycle put together, and make sure your diet is solid as well.
    Gaz... Life is what we make it, we have to work hard for what we want!

    Building the foundations of my future, it has been a tough ride.

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    ok so Arimidex for the AI... and with the 20mg celmodex tabs is 40/40/20/20 still plausible? and in the case it is a 13-14 week cycle, when should the PCT with nolva be started...16-17?

    thanks

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    Exactly 2 weeks after your last shot of test, and run the nolva at 20/20/20/10/10 or 20/20/10/10/10 if you can run it ur way surely that's possible too lol? My maths isn't great when i'm this tired.

    Also start the adex at week 3 and run it 2 weeks in to your PCT some will say 3 weeks in to you PCT though.
    Gaz... Life is what we make it, we have to work hard for what we want!

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    soz and adex .5mg e3d or .25 e3d and adjust if needed.
    Gaz... Life is what we make it, we have to work hard for what we want!

    Building the foundations of my future, it has been a tough ride.

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