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Thread: Need Help! Deeca and Sus. Big Dose Questions

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    Default Need Help! Deeca and Sus. Big Dose Questions

    Hi Guys, Ive been doing a ton of research on here and various sites. I asked about my initial cycle plan. Since then I realized I had less gear than I originally thought. I have to work with what I have unless the cycle is just shit.

    This is my second cycle. My first was a test only, (sustanon 250).This time around Im going to be adding deca durabolin. I have some joint issues and this is why I really want to add deca durabolin to the cycle.

    Stats: 33, 510, 190, 15% BF, 2nd cycle, Training 10+ years. Also have done 3 pill cycles. Like DMZ.

    Training: alternating from routine A and B each week (week 1- Workout A, Week2- workout B)

    A. 4 days a week chest, tris legs, calves- shoulders, traps back, bis
    B. 5 days a week upper - lower speed & agility Battle ropes or tire flip, smash full body

    Diet: is dialed in. I found a great plan here , thanks

    Heres my cycle. Any and all constructive critics welcomed. If Im doing something wrong please explain why so I can get a little wiser.

    On hand: and pretty much all I can get. Just moved and no sources

    Organon Sustanon 250. 20 x 1ml ampoule

    Deca-Durabolin 100 (Nandrolone Decanoate). 40 x 1ml ampoule

    The following I ordered from a sponsor site. I was told it was legit
    Liquid Clomi (CLOMID)
    Liquid Prami
    Liquidex (ARIMIDEX)

    Option 1:
    Weeks 1-10 sust 500mg P/W E3.5D
    Weeks 1-8 deca 400mg P/W E3.5D
    Weeks 3-10 Prami .25 mg ED at before bed
    Weeks 3-12 Arimidex .5mg E3D or EOD ?????

    PCT
    Nolva- 20/20/10/10/10
    Clomid- 50/50/25/25

    Option 2:
    Or the other option is to lower the dose and pin EOD and make it stretch to 14 weeks (really, 4doses one week and 3 the next by the calendar. 7 pins over a 14 day period.

    Weeks 1-14 sust 350mg P/W
    Weeks 1-12 deca 280mg P/W
    Weeks 3-14 Prami .25 mg ED at before bed
    Weeks 3-16 Arimidex .5mg E3D or EOD ?????

    PCT
    Nolva- 20/20/10/10/10
    Clomid- 50/50/25/25

    I would rather make it last longer and long as the doses arent too low. Long read but I wanted to give as much detail as possible. Thanks

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    Well you have 4000mg of deca and 5000mg of sustanon. So if you ran the deca for 12 weeks you would be doing about 333mg per week. If you can work out how many cc you will need in each shot then I'd go with your second option. I personally would just do 2 shots per week being you are working with such low doses. It really won't make much difference with the sustanon to do it every 3.5 days.
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    What week are you planning to start pct? I'd leave the nolvadex out and go clomid only since you're using deca. Using nolvadex in a deca pct can cause increased chances of gyno.

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    Thanks, I'm gettin alot of feedback on not takiing nolvadex with a 19-nor. I plan on starting my pct 18 days after my last sus pin.

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    ^^ 14 days after last pin. 18 wouldn't hurt but keep it simple. 2 weeks is better
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    If you go with just the clomid I suggest running it a couple weeks longer, so six weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinup View Post
    Thanks, I'm gettin alot of feedback on not takiing nolvadex with a 19-nor. I plan on starting my pct 18 days after my last sus pin.
    Sounds good since you're using longer esters.

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    I like plan 2 better than the first option. It will probably yield better results.
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    I'm definitely going with plan 2 with a few minor tweaks from advice I have received

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    What kind of joint issues are you having?
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