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    To answer your question, if it helps off cycle, usually it's effects are even better when on cycle.
    For example hgh is beneficial off cycle but add some aas and it becomes phenominal.
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    Got the blood test today...the tren is doing his job on the liver. The LDL goes from 90 to 119 and the HDL from 70 to 22.. The total colesterol is ok 154 but the alaminotransferaza (GPT/ALAT/ALT) IS DOUBLE than normal 105 ... Anyway is far better that the previsios cycle ( when HDL was 15). Dissapointing about the liver protect..i take N2guard, Caradine, Animal omega ( complex of fish and flax oils), and coconut oil...BUT TREN IS TREN ---liver toxic.
    Also made the hormonal tests..and the boold tell more than nips water retention and other signs.
    The test is double than normal 52 ( the max nat limit is 27) but the estro is also double 468 ( the max male nr is 229) and i wonder why. I use aromasin 12.5mg e3d.
    Do the curent modification of cycle ( rise the NNP from 100 to 150 this monday) i will rise also the caber at 0.5 e3d ( from 0.25 eod). And also because of the estro i will go to 12.5 mg of aromasin eod.

    Like i said...i m dissapointed about the results on my liver with n2guard and caradine...i expect better numbers. It is tru that they are better then previsos cycle, that hte dose of tren is almost duble (375 from 200) but also the suplementation is BIIGG.
    Wondering what will hapen with my balls .. i take HCG GENERATE from day 1 of the cycle.. will i get the shrink cage? When i use HCG did not happened....
    Somehow caradine made the job...really good product..i still have a lot of cardio capacyty and not gain much fat..
    Why i eaven write here? It appears that everybody s gone...for good

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    Yep. Pretty much. They ruined a great forum, then killed it. I just popped in to see what's been happening. Apparently nothing. This place is finally dead.
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    Week 9...in Germany..Bonn..been training regulary eat well not great but well but.....hit the wall..or suposes so. Stay at 91.5 kg and not go up. Feal if i put more calories i will put more fat. Anyway i feal that from this point i chase for fat not muscle.
    It is true that i never was so big with so less fat maybe is just psychology but expected more. Why i don t grow anymore?
    The sleep is ok arrownd 8 hours i eat almost 2500 to 3000 cals i train amd...stop grow...dificult problem...
    But the good part is ...no sides until now. I reduce the caber at 0.25 eod rise the aromasin at 12.5 ed and have in generally a fealimg of well-being eaven i m in the 9 week of tren..and sex life never been so great before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bufbiker View Post
    Yep. Pretty much. They ruined a great forum, then killed it. I just popped in to see what's been happening. Apparently nothing. This place is finally dead.
    Who are they? We were doing a major forum upgrade, many users could not login. Nasty thing to say bufbiker!


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    Week 10 in Great Britan. Maybe the best diat days...last days. Get to the supermarket and get everything i need. Been sore at the chest from Tuesday last week.
    Train chest today and was really good. I belive that i m fuuulll charged from last week.
    Also the mirror says i m bigger and less fat. In fact i can see all the abs in the morning. What s next?... i don t know maybe 94 next week.
    Again no side efects until now. But have 3 weeks from blood test..and it will be another until the next blood test when i will be home.
    Reduce a little also the training schedule...4 days per week

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    Week 11...back home....and hit hard the wall....no more gains for me...maybe fat but not muscle.
    The train is ok...the diat is right but no new muscle. And the scale freeze on 94 kg.
    Tomorrow i will get blood analysis again...it s been almost a month and i feal my hard pump harder and harder...

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    I got out from today the nnp and tren...anyway i coud not handle it. And was no more gain..just problem with the sleep..and blood panel scrued...and no more cardo capacity..over ... kaput...3 floors and i m done
    More intresting got the estro test today...and incredible..eaven i constant rise the aromasin dose until 12.5 mg ed the estro still grow...at reach 550...how it is posible...i have pharma grade aromasin...so little test and such huge estro? What is wrong...have perfect erection...no blood presure..no puffy nips..

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    Emil, your not growing because your not eating enough. You need at least 4,000 cals per day to grow. Tren isnt great for adding weight, its more of a recomp benefit. If you want to put on size then you should be running Test and Decca AND EATING!
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    Week 15....in fact week 1 of PCT...The results look gorgeous...that what the electronic scale and trainers said. I left in november from 77.5kg (11.5% bf) and finish at 92kg (13% bf)...and from 68 fat free mass i find myself at 78 kg of fat free mass. Still see all the abs.
    The strength is the same and the libido...well just say porn...still the mood on the roof eaven after 4 days without test prop.
    The PCT will be 5 weeks long followed by 4 weeks Off Cycling Terapy.
    The PCT...clomid 50 mg ed for 2 weeks...25 mg another 2 weeks ...12.5 last week.
    Nolva 40 mg ed for 1week 20 mg for 3 weeks and 10 mg last week
    Aromasin 12.5 eod for 2 weeks ...7.5 mg for another 2 weeks.
    Caradine 20 mg ed...ostarine 25mg ed...
    Hcg generate es 5 cap ed...n2guard 7 caps ed

    Plan to finish at 89...91 ..kg .with 12%bf.....with all the muscle....practic planing the imposible...

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