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    i am keen to run my first cycle and would be doing testosterone enanthate 250mg twice a week for 16 weeks. would start arimidex .25mg eod and then PCT with nolvadex and clomid. can anyone plz let me know how does it feel like coming off the cycle and starting the PCT??

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    Your arimidex dosage is slightly slow for the cycle you have planned. I would bump it up to 0.5mg EOD.

    If you run a proper PCT, the transition from cycle to PCT to off will be very gradual.

    Not keeping the majority of the gains you made on your steroid cycle is usually the result of:
    1. Not running a proper PCT after your steroid cycle.
    2. Not training and eating with the same intensity after the cycle as you did on cycle.

    What put the muscle on the first place is what will keep it there after your PCT - HARD training and a high protein diet.

    A proper PCT ensures your natural testosterone production fully recovers and that you keep the majority of the gains you made on your steroid cycle. I recommend everyone follow the perfect PCT after each steroid cycle -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ed!-49252.html

    The perfect PCT is arguably the best PCT protocol you can run. It is comprised of the SERMS clomid and nolvadex, the AI aromasin, HCGenerate ES (a good natural testosterone booster), N2guard (a liver/organ detox supplement) and the SARMS ostarine and cardarine.

    • Clomid and Nolvadex increase levels of LH and FSH in the body, which increase free testosterone levels.
    • An aromatize inhibitor will prevent testosterone from aromatizing into estrogen and prevent side effects like gynocemastia and water retention.
    • A natural testosterone booster (like HCGenerate ES) will signal the leydig cells in the testicles to restart testosterone production.
    • A liver/organ detox supplement (like N2guard) will help cleanse the liver and kidney, regulate blood pressure and balance cholesterol levels.
    • Ostarine will prevent muscle loss during a PCT when the body is catabolic from the increased cortisol levels and low anabolic hormones.
    • Cardarine will prevent fat gain during a PCT protocol when hormones are low and cortisol levels are high.
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    I would encourage you to take the advice of muskrat above.

    however I would also advise not to go 16 weeks.. think about it. if you count the esters that is 22 weeks of exogenous hormones shutting you down. that is a long time. instead go 10-12 weeks, you will recover easier after.

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    I agree with 12 weeks for your first run. No need to be suppressed for that long on a first cycle.

    It loos good overall except the PCT. Your "2 SERM" PCT is very outdated and weak. Since you are concerned about how you feel coming off and starting PCT it is even more important to use a thorough one. This is what I highly recommend: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ed!-49252.html

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