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    hello guys, i am here for some expert suggestions on running a cycle with deca durabolin and testosterone enanthate. can anyone plz confirm if a weekly dose of test e 500mg and deca 350mg a week be good?? also, should i run dianabol or anadrol to kickstart gains??

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    If you are trying to bulk, nothing will put on size and strength like the old school classic bulking cycle of test + deca + dbol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/testoste...lin-dbol-cycle

    Most UG lab test is 250mg/mL and most deca is 300mg/mL. To keep things really simple, I like a weekly dosage of 500mg test/week + 300mg deca/week

    Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
    1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
    2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.

    The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.

    I would also add in a good liver aid supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com when using the dbol because it is a liver toxic oral steroid.

    Here's what I recommend:

    Weeks 1 - 16
    testosterone 500mg/week
    deca 300mg/week
    aromasin 12.5mg every other day
    cabergoline 0.5mg every other day

    Weeks 1 - 6
    dbol 30mg/day
    n2guard 7 capsules/day

    After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perf...e-therapy-pct/
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    aside from trevor mentioned I highly advice using proviron on a deca cycle

    i would run it like this:

    test 200mg a week
    deca 400mg a week
    dbol 20mg a day 4 weeks kickstart
    proviron 25-50mg a day
    AI

    PCT:
    perfect pct

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    The dosages you are planning for are very good. If you are going to add in an oral kick-starter, I would definitely avoid anadrol, since it is a very complicated steroid with lots of side effects. Dbol would be a better choice at approximately 30 mgs per day.

    Also, make sure to be using all the right ancillaries:

    1. Aromasin for estrogen. 10 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle.

    2. Cabergoline for prolactin. 0.25 mgs E2D from the first day of the cycle.

    3. Proviron agains deca dick. 50 mgs per day.

    4. N2Guard for the liver.

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    The test and deca doses look good. As for adding an oral kick start, it isn't something you "should or shouldn't" do it is just a personal preference. If you are running long esters and you want some gains quicker while you wait for them to peak in your system then go for it. Just make sure you are running n2guard to keep your liver safe. With test and deca aromatizing heavily, I might add something not as wet as dbol. Tbol I think is a great option here.

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