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Thread: Anyone want to help me research tren?

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    Lightbulb Anyone want to help me research tren?

    Okay. I am trying to research Tren, and asking for anyone's help.
    Here are the problems I am having.
    First everything I can find is about Trenbolne Acetate, so I do not know what difference enanthate would make if any.
    Second, I have not found much that does not have to do with steer.
    Third... I thought I had more problems...Must have forgot.

    My thought is that we can look into this as a group. There are some different/conflicting ideas on this and other boards. The problem with ideas are that after they are written down they spread from board to board as facts, not ideas. This can be dangerous to people trying to learn.

    As far as personal experiences, they seem to be the only real human research I can find. But we have to keep in mind that there are many many variables. One of the articles below claims flax is bad, I believe, with tren. So for personal experiences, lets try to include as much detail as we can. Maybe the "cough" comes when you take vitamin C and tren... maybe we can find that pattern. Maybe I am day dreaming.

    So here are some articles/papers/whatever I found. And a little of my thoughts about them. Some of them are here just for me to use later. This seems better than a bookmark, cause I get to leave myself notes. The first one is for Opi.

    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...fr522.2483.pdf
    This article says...
    (3) Limitations. (i) Do not use in viral
    infections. With bacterial infections,
    appropriate antibacterial therapy
    should be used.
    (ii) Do not use in animals with tuberculosis,
    chronic nephritis, or
    cushingoid syndrome, except for emergency
    therapy.

    So I think that may mean you want to be careful Opi. Please keep in mind, I know nothing about your condition, so if I way off here... Sorry.

    http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecf...no/v25je08.htm
    This one has studies done on many animals.. not just steer. It does say "it was concluded that it was unlikely that TBA was
    genotoxic." Which we knew, but it is good to get it in writing.

    http://jas.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/81/12/3028
    Someone please explain this to me. It says Flax combined with Trenbolne acetate will 4.4 times down-regulate IGF-I. Is down regulate as bad as it sounds. Does this mean NO FLAX with tren.

    http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecf...l/jec_2172.htm
    Nothing more than the full name... could help in research.

    http://www.fas.usda.gov/itp/policy/hormone2.html
    This one says if you eat 16lbs of beef from steers that used tren a day, you will gain 1 test point. (joke)

    http://www.extension.umn.edu/beef/co...ons/bcmu10.pdf
    Decent read, but most of it is about TBA+E, Trenbolene Acetate + Estrogen... so does not really apply. The addition of Estrogen will make you grow though... grow fat.

    http://www.msu.edu/~buskirk/Publicat...%2081-2395.pdf
    This one is again about TBA+E, but it does make mention of something that could be interesting. That the larger the steer the more effective the implant was. And on the smallest steer it was not effective.


    http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/pharm/pimg007.htm
    I don't know if this is any use at all.. Not looked at it. At first glance it looked okay, though not for tren.

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    have you read our tren profile here on mms?

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    That's not what I expected.

    I got the basics. I have a couple versoins of the anabolics books. But even the books just tell you their answer, not at all how they came to the answer. I would have thought you would understand. After all you and Deacon, but respected posters, have very different views of tren. As is the same with most of the boards. I started looking more indepth to help Opi, and thought help would be nice... maybe even fun. I at least like these kind of projects, or did in college.

    Debate and research helps us learn.

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    I doubt that there are any published studies in regard to tren use in humans other than a few older studies relating to parabolon and pychological problems.

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    you wont find any hard evidence as Lifts points out - that is the whole problem with steroids in general - no real studies have been done on them concerning healthy male bodybuilders - all we get are studies on anemic kids etc

    I like tren - I believe that there are many more harmful steroids than tren - it works the best for me in a stack and I recover easily from it

    So until I know differently I will continue to use it

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    the other thing is that alot of guys who say tren caused sides for them were often using 3 other drugs in their stack - so how do they know it was the tren?

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    i had really good results from a stack with tren in it.....i used test c dbol and tren...i didnt notice anything out of the ordinary, my libido never crashed and i recovered just fine form the stack

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    What i've read on other boards about tren is: Do ed injections instead of eod to keep the sides down, best stacked with test for libido, start at 50mg ed and increase the dose if you feel the need, if you're prone to mpb get some nizoral 2% shampoo. I've also read don't use it for any longer than 8 wks, drink lots of water and take cranberry extract, 'cause it can be hard on the kidney's.Also take Tyler's Liver Detox or Milk Thistle for your liver. I've read of bouts with insomnia,night sweats,strange dreams when you do sleep,smelly urine and acne,but those are usually associated with eod injections instead of ed.Tren is a very strong steroid that will give you really good muscle gains and fat loss. You're doing the right thing by doing lots of research first,as you should before using any steroid.Again, this is only what i've read about tren.Hope this helps.

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    Wow fish you are really goin to work on this.. I wish I had more time to help you out..

    BIG WOOT for you man.

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