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    Diabolik Guest

    Default Assists (Belts, straps, chalk, gloves)

    For the longest time I used a belt and straps for doing deadlifts, squats, and the like. While on CKD I decided to get rid of the belt and straps for everything and use chalk if grip was ever a problem. I found my forearm strength went way up (which was always a problem for me) and I am a lot more steady on my lower back.

    I wanted to know what you guys use for assists when doing heavy weights or powerlifting. I am going to do a powerlifting routine again in a month for strength building, and am thinking of using a belt ONLY for my last set or two, and never use straps. Just curious what others use, and what sort of benefits / drawbacks there are to not using a belt for really heavy sets.

    I've never seen a need for gloves. Just my opinion.

    -Diabolik

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    If you are going to do a powerlifting contest which includes deads, you definately have to get used to going without straps...they are not allowed....yes your grip and forearms will get stronger...as far as going without a belt when squating or doing deads, I recommend doing the lifts without any assistance up to a certain amount of weight...once you start getting up around your threshold, you better wear a belt...you will be the only lifter at the meet without one...it is for your protection.

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    Default for power lifting...

    All the equipment is needed. If you don't have it your at a disadvantage. Its for protection as well as support at max or near max weight. List of equipment would be something like... Squat suit, groove breifs, DL suit, Bench shirt,wide belt,knee wraps, wrist wraps, mouth guard (after your first trip to the dentist you'll know what I mean), good shoes, chalk, and baby powder.

    Don't over use the eqip. though. Over use can actually weaken you. I only use my belt for my heaviest sets of squat, deads, rack squats and deads.
    Lifting straps are a tool but should only be used, again for your heaviest sets. I do most of my back stuff very explosivly, almost voilently, so I use the straps to focus on snapping the weight instead of griping it.
    NEVER deadlift off the floor with straps if you plan to compete. Use an over hand/ under hand grip.
    I think all the equipment has its place, some disagree, but its all about max weights to me....
    Mega

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    Diabolik Guest

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    Yeah that makes sense. I always overhand / underhand grip for deads, and I ALWAYS lift from the floor. I guess using straps is ok for heavy sets, but I had problems with them tearing through my wrist (at least it felt like it) and it felt better to just bare hand it with chalk.

    I think I will go back to using a belt for heavy sets. On CKD, I'm never doing a two rep max (or rarely) so it doesn't matter, and it's a change for the workout to not use the belt. But I think when I start my new program, I'll need it.

    I'm not planning on professionally competing BTW, but I want to train like I am.

    Thanks guys.

    -Diabolik

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    rj420 Guest

    Default Only thing I use

    is weight belt when I have more than 225 on squat or deads. Gotta watch my lower back. I make up for it with other more direct work though, i.e. weight roman chair hypers. My grip has never failed on deads, but I do use the straps for the rest of my back workout. pretty much shot after deads.

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    Default I like gloves

    ...don't know why, I just do. I think the only other thing I have ever used were straps or hooks when I'd do different chins. They come in handy when your hands are getting sweaty and your doing a wide grip chin set up to the bar with your chest...don't want to land you ass on the floor from up there now do ya?

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    Default man..

    straps are a must when pounding bent rows with mid 400 pound weight explosivly really no way to hang on to the bar, I don't care how strong our grip is. I use the straps to make sure i'm targeting the muscles and not let my grip be the limiting factor...
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    Default Mega

    I don't do the straps hanging from a bar...I'll use hooks on occasion depending on how I feel, but never straps. By the time I get them wrapped around the bar while hanging there, my workout is over.

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    Here's a breakdown of my assitance:

    chest: nothing
    biceps: nothing
    triceps: dipping belt (either for dips or to keep my feet on the floor for pushdowns)
    shoulders: sometimes a belt for overhead pressing
    pulldowns: straps
    bent rows: belt and straps
    shrugs: belt and straps
    dead lifts: chalk only
    squats: belt

    That's it. Find that it works well, lower back strong, but not over trained this way. Forearm strength great, but also not over trained.

    jn6047

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    bronc Guest

    Default I feel like an equip whore now...

    Chest(Wrist wraps)
    Close bench & Dumbells I don't like holding the 110s without wraps. Ditto on wrist position in close bench.

    Back(Power Grips & Belt)
    I can free hand deadlift up to 425, from there up I use the PowerGrips(sorta like wraps but much more comfortable) After deads I need the straps to row, more for the down stroke(wet hands=ooops!) I belt up above 315 on the deads but don't use it with any other excersises.

    Delts(Wrist wraps & Power grips)
    Again I don't like holding Bells w/out wraps.
    Uprights free hand. So any shrugs that follow above 225 w/Power grips.

    Legs(Belt)
    I free squat to 315x8 then Belt up for heavy work. Never use knee wraps but not against the idea. Occasionaly Belt up for standing calf work if I'm tapped out from squats.

    Arms(Wrist wraps)
    Nothing for Triceps(Dip belt, but thats more like an excersise than help)
    Wrapped wrist for all Bicep work. I have old injury from Army days, very bad sprains in both so I need the heat and support. My forearms have not suffered any, and It keeps me free from pain.

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